Talk:Atlassian/Archive 1

Early text
Aaggh! I missed Articles for deletion/Atlassian Software Systems, or else I probably wouldn't have added it. Oh well. - Crosbiesmith 20:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It does have a few in-links, so perhaps it is worth keeping? There may be a disproportionate interest in Wiki vendors here on Wikipedia!  -  Crosbiesmith 20:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

It looks like advertisement anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kunaldeo (talk • contribs) 07:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Untitled
There is relevant information for this article in this video starting at about 14 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrkrvAUbU9Y&

Can't-be-bothered-anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.127.223 (talk) 01:48, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

April Fools Joke: Angry Nerds
http://www.atlassian.com/en/angrynerds

Do you think we could add a note about this joke? - ZuTheSkunk (talk) 16:23, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Company name
What does Altassian stand for?

AmirOnWiki (talk) 11:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * See this WP article about the greek mythos. They're using this metaphor (their "Atlassian avatar") to illustrate a point about their company (responsibility, probably). --Demonkoryu (talk) 12:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Products
Why does the product list contain Bonfire? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.225.99.145 (talk) 22:56, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It appears that Bonfire is the name of a software application or software service, which isn't notable enough to have an article of its own. Jarble (talk) 16:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Why is SourceTree singled-out for a software infobox? It's a minor product. Probably best to remove the infobox? John Rotenstein (talk) 09:32, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Why is this company's "notability" being questioned?
An editor has placed a template on this page questioning the notability of Atlassian. I notice that the company has developed many products that have articles of their own on Wikipedia, and some of these products (e. g., BitBucket) are fairly well-known. If this company has developed various notable products, would that make the company "notable" itself? Jarble (talk) 16:13, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * In general, no. The notability of a company is not inherited from its products. To write an article about the company itself, in-depth independent reliable sources are needed about the company proper, not just its products--company history, its impact and importance to the field, notable events and controversies, etc. --Mark viking (talk) 18:40, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Why the final vowel in the pronunciation /ʌ/ rather than /ə/, which is what is in other words ending in -ian? Is this the Australian pronunciation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.179.8.134 (talk) 12:34, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Also, is the stress really on the first syllable? In the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YrAqIsJAHI, the people working there seem to pronounce it with stress on the second syllable (/ətˈlæsiən/). Mats (talk) 08:05, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Headquarters
There seems to be confusion about where this company's headquarters are located. It's website says Sydney. Various articles on the web say it moved to London. Another article says it's still Sydney. I have to assume that a software company is able to keep its website up-to-date, and go with Sydney. Horatio (talk) 00:58, 23 September 2015 (UTC)


 * There was actually a restructure in which the ultimate parent of the group became Atlassian Corporation Plc, with registered address in London, UK. I suppose this should be used as the HQ. Horatio (talk) 03:26, 8 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Although headquarters says its "the location where most, if not all, of the important functions of an organization are coordinated" and "many companies have a registered office at a different address to their corporate office". Is it plausible that the main executives of the group are still working in Sydney, making that the HQ, even while the registered office of the corporate parent is in London? Horatio (talk) 02:59, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Management is definitely in Sydney. I believe that they don't actually have any staff in London -- it's purely for legal/organisational reasons. John Rotenstein (talk) 09:30, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * OK, I've set the HQ back to Sydney. That's in agreement with their own website. Horatio (talk) 23:27, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Atlassian Partners
Whilst Atlassian has obviously added a lot of people to organization in the last couple years, a large part of what can be done with the product suite, JIRA in particular, has to do with Marketplace addons and bespoke changes made by partner organizations, as Atlassian itself does little of that. Nearly half of all Atlassian installations use some addon found in the marketplace at https://marketplace.atlassian.com/ and the marketplace itself was developed originally by a partner. Partners and other experts can be found at https://www.atlassian.com/resources/experts. Atlassian issues awards to partners at the annual SUMMIT. What awards have been issued by Atlassian to its partners over the last few years?

Summit
The annual Atlassian Summit should be noted with some detail as the venue is always maxed out and especially in recent years, there has been difficulty hosting it due to the size of the event and its popularity. 2016 has already moved to San Jose http://www.sanjose.org/events/2016-atlassian-summit/ after the sell-out limitations of San Francisco in 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by APResearch (talk • contribs) 20:18, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

ShipIt
ShipIt has been popular at Atlassian https://www.atlassian.com/company/shipit and partner organizations seem to be practicing their own. Perhaps a section is warranted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by APResearch (talk • contribs) 20:23, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

New logo Suggestion
Atlassian has a new logo, as of 2017. The logo is at File:New logo for Atlassian Corporation.svg. Could someone swap out the one in the article? ''I am disclosing a conflict of interest around articles related to Atlassian. I am an employee of Atlassian, though I am not making this edit in the capacity of my employment.'' -Philippe  (talk) 11:02, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Promotional tone issues
Regarding the advert template I just added: The article contains many vague and promotional statements sourced to press-releases or similar. There are also buzzwords and trivial details which are detached from any context, such as the exact amount of credit-card debt the founders started with, for example. This makes the article seem more like a "inspirational" Entrepreneur-porn a la a Forbes advertorial. A legitimate, neutrally written encyclopedia article will not include this level of puffery. On the same note, "serves" is another buzzword. Wikipedia cannot say all of its customers (clients?) have been "served", nor can we speculate on what they are "best known" for. The addition of a "philanthropy" section sourced entirely to the company's own blog is another red flag that this article has spam and WP:COI problems. Grayfell (talk) 20:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey Grayfell, I had to check to see if you were me, the text above seemed like it could have been me. The current state isn't that advertorial, they are a major vendor, just heard one of their adverts on NPR. The glaring thing for me is how they're not owning AR, the meaning/significance of the name that dare not speak its name. It is so funny how toxic she is these days. 45.46.138.162 (talk) 13:27, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Self published sources and Forbes Contributor articles
{{re}Walter Görlitz}}, evidently, you did not look. See WP:FORBESCON. The Forbes I removed is a CONTRIBUTOR article, which is to be treated like a blog, because Forbes is essentially just hosting the comments, not controlling the contents. And mentioning charitable contribution and citing press release or company's own blog is boastful and it's a neutral point of view issue. The article is already tagged as an advertisement language issues. Graywalls (talk) 22:34, 8 September 2020 (UTC) Graywalls (talk) 23:19, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, your edit summary was confusing, but I figured out that you listed the page first and then added a comment and saw the section you were referencing. Thanks. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Product articles
I feel there's not enough content or strong notability to justify own page for all those individual software products and I propose they be merged into this article. Graywalls (talk) 00:28, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Crucible (software) into Atlassian
per WP:NPRODUCT, should be merged Graywalls (talk) 00:43, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Trello into Atlassian
per WP:NPRODUCT Graywalls (talk) 00:44, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:01, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , Ok, how do you feel about other ones? If any which ones do you believe should remain their own? Graywalls (talk) 22:56, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose Merging all of these stand-alone articles into this article would make this too large. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:38, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Bitbucket into Atlassian
per WP:NPRODUCT. so far this page is basically corporate brochure Graywalls (talk) 00:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose This looks notable to me. It survived an AfD in 2013 Articles_for_deletion/Bitbucket, in which a number of RS were put forward. -- 18:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose Merging all of these stand-alone articles into this article would make this too large. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:38, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Merges

 * I oppose the merges of the articles on subsidiaries that were once notable independent companies. There is no way to merge those articles into this one without either 1) losing the history of when they were independent or 2) blowing up this article to an unmanageable size/structure.  UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:45, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose Merging all of these stand-alone articles into this article would make this too large. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:38, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the products should NOT merge with this article, thanks. -Imad_J (talk) 21:02, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Crucible and FishEye
Merging all of these does not have support, but it might be worth discussing specifically whether Crucible (software) and FishEye (software) should be merged. Both articles are quite thin and would fit if a short product listing section were added. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Product disconnect
Why is the "Sourcetree" box floating in the middle of "Acquisitions and product announcements"? It is not even mentioned in the text. Shouldn't it be mentioned in the text?

--Mortense (talk) 10:20, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I suspect that it was an acquisition. I removed it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:56, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

No security issues?
The issues they had should be named. Confluence back door, etc. Amtiss, SNAFU ? 12:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC)