Talk:Atotech

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because the company is a important player in the global market. With about 4,000 employees, Atotech serves a wide range of successful products and services in the chemical industry.--Koenigsteiner (talk) 15:10, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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Declaration of COI and request for edits
Hi. I am declaring here, as well as on my user page that I work for Atotech. It is my understanding that Wikipedia policy disallows users from editing articles in which they have a vested interest, so therefore I am stating my interest. The page is in dire need of updating and improvements, and I hope, with your help, to create an article that is useful for readers interested in learning about the company. I have observed other COI editors and how they interact with Wikipedia and have noticed that sometimes they make edits on their own, and sometimes they request edits be made by other users on their behalf. I wonder if you can clarify when it is appropriate to make an edit on my own, and when it is better to request an edit. Thank you. Below I would like to request my first edit: AtotechUser (talk) 11:17, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:COIU gives a listing of which types of edits are considered uncontroversial and would therefore not meet resistance to being made by COI editors. Regards,  Spintendo  08:38, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Requested edit
We would like to see a new section called "Corporate structure" added to the article after the History section and before the Products section with the following content:

The company is composed of two main business units: Electronics and General Metal Finishing. Of the over 3,800 employees, approximately 56% are in Asia; 35% are in Europe; and 9% are in the Americas.
 * Corporate structure

Atotech operates in more than 40 countries including Germany, Italy, Czech Republic, South Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan, India, Singapore, Canada, Brazil and the USA. It runs 17 TechCenters, 14 chemical production plants and 2 equipment production sites.

In March 2017, Geoff Wild was appointed as CEO of Atotech. The company’s CFO is Peter Frauenknecht. John Stephenson heads the operations of the Group as COO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtotechUser (talk • contribs) 11:43, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

- Edit Made (30-05-19) The full request WAS NOT implemented as it contained promotional and duplicate material. Some of the requested data spread about numerous topics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamagoodboynow123 (talk • contribs) 13:45, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Requested edit
Please create a new section after the History section and before the Products section: The company is committed to sustainability through a self-imposed adherence to stricter standards than required by law to protect the environment, users and production workers. The company also offers customers environmentally friendly products which may help them improve their sustainability profile. Atotech published its first Green Development Roadmap in 2010. By 2018 there were less than 5% toxic substances in their chemical products. Some 38% of R&D projects are dedicated to sustainable goals. AnnaAtAtotech (talk) 19:48, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * '''Sustainability and green technology

Reply 02-JUN-2019
Regards, Spintendo  00:42, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) The company's commitment to sustainability describes an ideology or company-mindset — both of which may be noble causes, but which are ultimately not germane to the article.
 * 2) The company's environmentally friendly products are not listed individually with independent references attesting to their level of friendly-ness to the environment. Without these sources the proposed description of these products as being environmentally friendly has been phrased using Wikipedia's voice, which cannot be the case.
 * 3) The "less than 5%" goal mentioned as being achieved in 2018 does not state what the pre-goal percentage was.
 * 4) The 38% R&D products "dedicated to sustainable goals" does not mention specifically what it is about those products which makes them dedicated to the company's sustainable goals.


 * Thank you so much for putting the time into helping with this page expansion. I definitely see your point here and will take your recommendations/suggestions into consideration--perhaps we can find some information/sources that will support your suggestions so that we can submit this again at a later date, but this time in a way that will be acceptable on Wikipedia. Again, I want you to know we really appreciated your help. AnnaAtAtotech (talk) 15:27, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Requested edit
Please add a new section with the following content: A high percentage of sales are reinvested in R&D. The company owns over 2,100 patents. Atotech collaborates with major research centers to develop new chemistries and processes to reduce the size of semiconductor devices. The company also supports research in a variety of disciplines.
 * Research and development

Thank you. AnnaAtAtotech (talk) 15:39, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Reply 04-JUN-2019
Regards, Spintendo  01:54, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) ❌ The claim regarding the "high percentage of sales" being reinvested in R&D was not added because it is not known what is meant by the use of the phrase high percentage.
 * 2) ❌ The claim regarding the "development of new chemistries and processes to reduce the size of semiconductor devices" was not added because it is not known what is meant by, nor what specifically is entailed with, the use of the word collaborates.
 * 3) ❌ The claim regarding the company "supporting research in a variety of disciplines" was not added because it is not known what is meant by, nor what specifically is entailed with, the use of the words supporting and variety.
 * 4) ✅ The claim regarding the patents was added to the lead section.

Edit requests - history section
Thank you to the editors who have been helping me up until this point. I have just a few more rounds of edit requests to make and wanted to submit my requests for the history section today. I am looking over and trying to learn from the pushback offered so far from. Here are my requests for the history section at the moment. Thanks again AnnaAtAtotech (talk) 08:38, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

1. The first sentence of the “History” section is factually incorrect and also confusing. It says "Atotech traces its origins to the pharmaceutical company Schering AG, which was founded in 1851."
 * Please replace it with the following: "Atotech traces its origins to the “Grüne Apotheke” (“Green Apothecary”) founded in Berlin in 1851 by Ernst Christian Friedrich Schering."

2. The second paragraph currently reads: “In 1901, the electroplating division was launched. It produced salt mixtures for storing metals with the brand name Trisalyt.” Which is ambiguous and doesn’t give context.
 * Please expand it to read (using the existing source): "In 1901, the electroplating division was launched, producing ready-to-use prepared salts for coating with gold, silver, copper and zinc under the brand name Trisalyt. Until that time, electroplating baths were prepared from chemicals by experts. The ready-to-use Trysalyt salts, which were simply dissolved in water, made the process simpler, making it available to more users."

3. After the second sentence in the history section about the year 1901, I'd like to fill in the large gaps. Please add:
 * "In 1927 Chemische Fabrik auf Actien (vorm E. Schering) merged with CAF Kahlbaum Chemische Fabrik GmbH to create Schering-Kahlbaum AG."

4. The third paragraph about 1936 in the history section misses one of the key developments of that year.


 * Please edit to read: "Schering-Kahlbaum AG began manufacturing its own electroplating equipment in 1936. Initially, electroplating focused on improving the electrolytes, but now there were increased demands on the requirements of the equipment. Consequently, Schering worked on aligning the functions of the electrolyte and the equipment. This marked the first steps towards manually operated line equipment, which are still in use today through the computer-operated lines."

5. After the 1936 paragraph please add: "In 1937 the company was renamed Schering AG."

6. Finally, before the paragraph beginning “In 1993” please add: "In 1971 the company opened a 5,000 square meter facility for the manufacture of equipment in Feucht."

Thank you! AnnaAtAtotech (talk) 08:38, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Reply 05-JUN-2019
Regards, Spintendo  09:09, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * All proposed claims require references which verify the key elements presented in the prose. Numbers 2 and 4 contain elements which are unreferenced.
 * Number 3 does not include the text as its written in the original German placed under the quote parameter from the submitted document.
 * Number 5 and number 6 both state "the company" but do not specify which company this relates to. The COI editor is reminded that on no less than ten different occassions in this edit request, a mention of a company is made by name. In this complex mix of company identities, phrases such as "the company" would benefit greatly from being re-phrased with specificity. Thank you.

resubmitting edit requests for history section
I am trying to understand the issues that pointed out and I'm resubmitted the request with corrections to those issues. I hope everything is ok now and that I haven't taken up too much of your time. AnnaAtAtotech (talk) 10:44, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

1. The first sentence of the “History” section is factually incorrect and also confusing. It says "Atotech traces its origins to the pharmaceutical company Schering AG, which was founded in 1851."
 * Please replace it with the following: "Atotech traces its origins to the “Grüne Apotheke” (“Green Apothecary”) founded in Berlin in 1851 by Ernst Christian Friedrich Schering."

2. The reference used for point 2 is in the Schering library and is not in the Atotech library. There are no other references that I know of dating this far back for this point, but I wanted to clarify the existing information on Wikipedia for the benefit of readers. The second paragraph currently reads: “In 1901, the electroplating division was launched. It produced salt mixtures for storing metals with the brand name Trisalyt.” Which is ambiguous and doesn’t give context.
 * Please expand it to read (using the existing source): "In 1901, the electroplating division was launched, producing ready-to-use prepared salts for coating with gold, silver, copper and zinc under the brand name Trisalyt. Until that time, electroplating baths were prepared from chemicals by experts. The ready-to-use Trysalyt salts, which were simply dissolved in water, made the process simpler, making it available to more users."

3. After the second sentence in the history section about the year 1901, I'd like to fill in the large gaps. Please add:
 * "In 1927 Chemische Fabrik auf Actien (vorm E. Schering) merged with CAF Kahlbaum Chemische Fabrik GmbH to create Schering-Kahlbaum AG."

4. The third paragraph about 1936 in the history section misses one of the key developments of that year.


 * Please edit to read: "Schering-Kahlbaum AG began manufacturing its own electroplating equipment in 1936. Initially, electroplating focused on improving the electrolytes, but now there were increased demands on the requirements of the equipment. Consequently, Schering worked on aligning the functions of the electrolyte and the equipment.”

5. After the 1936 paragraph please add: "In 1937, Schering-Kahlbaum AG was renamed Schering AG." — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnaAtAtotech (talk • contribs) 10:45, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Reply 09-JUN-2019
Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request. Spintendo 01:41, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * thank you for the requests that you implemented and the feedback that you provided above. I've added a new request based on your feedback and on new material that I am requesting to add. Thanks! AnnaAtAtotech (talk) 06:57, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

COI request - one history request and new section request
Hi. I'm making two edit requests today based on feedback I received from Spintendo, and then on a new section request.

1. The third paragraph about 1936 in the history section misses one of the key developments of that year. Spintendo pointed out an issue with the use of the word "Now" and I've changed that wording. This would take the place of what is currently on the wiki for the year 1936.
 * Schering-Kahlbaum AG began manufacturing its own electroplating equipment in 1936. Initially, electroplating focused on improving the electrolytes, but subsequently there were increased demands on the requirements of the equipment. Consequently, Schering worked on aligning the functions of the electrolyte and the equipment.

2. I'm requesting the addition of a section called International Expansion with four subsections. It would read like this:


 * International Expansion


 * Germany

In 2011, Atotech launched its first production facility for the manufacture of high purity chemistry in Neuruppin in Berlin. The site has a capacity to produce 35,000 tons of chemicals per year.


 * China

In 2015 Atotech opened a new manufacturing plant in Guangzhou, China. It was the company’s third facility for the manufacture of production equipment for the electronics industry.


 * Taiwan

Atotech Taiwan Ltd. increased investment in R&D during the worldwide financial crisis in 2007, which led to an annual revenue increase of 10.5% compared to 2006.


 * USA

The company has a facility in Rock Hill, South Carolina and technology centers in Albany, New York and Denver, Colorado. https://www.atotech.com/usa/

Thank you! AnnaAtAtotech (talk) 06:55, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Reply 10-JUN-2019
Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request. Spintendo 10:01, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Declaration of COI and request for edits
As declared on my user page, I work for Atotech and hereby declare my conflict of interest.

I am asking the Wikipedia volonteers to update and correct following entries on our page.

Key People:

Current version: the current entry lists the following: Geoff Wild (CEO) Peter Frauenknecht (CFO) John Stephenson (COO) Josh McMorrow (GGC)

Requested update: Please list the following people as Key People: Geoff Wild (CEO) Peter Frauenknecht (CFO) Harald Ahnert (President, Electronics) Gertjan van der Wal (President, General Metal Finishing)

Sources: Atotech Management Website:https://www.atotech.com/about-us/management/ SEC prospectus https://sec.report/Document/0001193125-21-030594/#rom903704_12 page 132

Number of employees

Current version: the current entry lists the following Approximately 3,800 (End of 2018)

Requested update: Please list the following number of employees Approximately 4,000 (as of December 31, 2019)

Sources: https://www.atotech.com/ - Atotech at a glance - key facts https://sec.report/Document/0001193125-21-030594/#rom903704_11 page 112 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jengel84 (talk • contribs) 11:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC)