Talk:Attention seeking

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Clarification tags.
What do situation managing and situational decoy mean? I'd like to know. I don't know, and I'm very well educated in at least two fields that overlap the subject of the article. (In the case of situation managing, general usage implies a meaning, but the term seems in context to be used in a specific jargon sense, which may be different to general usage.) Not knowing the meaning of those two terms makes the meaning of the entire paragraph unclear.

Jargon terms left unexplained are exactly what clarify tags exist to mark, and so these tags are legitimate and being used for their intended purpose. I really don't know what those reverting their insertion think the tags are there for if not to mark unclear language that needs clarification, and I'd like to know that as well.

If you think the tags are unnecessary, that implies to me that you know what the terms in question mean and are perfectly capable of rectifying the problem with a short parenthetical note or a brief footnote. Do so, and the tags go away because they they are in fact unnecessary. If you know what the terms mean, why is it worth your while to revert the insertion of tags but not worth your while to obviate the reason they were inserted?

If you don't know what the terms mean, then why insist on reverting the tags? I frankly do not understand why someone would insist on reverting the addition of clarification tags simply to get rid of them, leaving the reason for the tags in place or without even exploring whether there is a reason for them. If there's an explanation for that behaviour, that's something else I'd very much like to know.

As for the third tag, that one marks "It can be voluntarily or involuntarily." I hope I don't have to explain the problem with that not-quite-a-full-sentence. Is it meant to be "It can be voluntary or involuntary", or is there meant to be another word in the sentence that the two adverbs are meant to modify? Again, a legitimate tag used for its legitimate purpose, and correcting the situation should be nearly as easy as reverting. In fact, I'll go make my best guess right now.

Very well, I've explained my rationale for the insertion of the tags. If there is a rationale for a contrary view on offer, I will listen with respect. Getheren (talk) 06:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

While I have no comment on the use of clarification tags, the article currently is a little bare bones. There are plenty of good references listed and many of them could certainly be used to flesh out the topic. Much of the article gives links to outside sources of which the information could be brought into the article itself, while following the proper copyright guidelines. Gregorytgarcia97 (talk) 19:33, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

References to add
Here are some potential sources that can be added to this article in order to help enhance its information:

American Psychiatric Association. (2013). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed.). https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596

I also think it could be important to add information from the future reading list such as:

Mellor, Nigel Attention Seeking: A Complete Guide for Teachers (2008)

Harvey, Eric & Mellor, Nigel Helping Parents Deal With Attention Seeking Behaviour (2009)

I am continuing to look into additional sources that perhaps can be added one day in the future. If there are any suggestions, please let me know what you are thinking.

Thank you! Whispersarai (talk) 21:48, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

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