Talk:Aua, American Samoa

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 * Here are some Factual Court Documents concerning the Tui's?

There are massive families of the falealili's who has intertwined with the Tui's of Manu'a in marriage which makes many of them half breeds. The challenging part of this article is looking for a "DNA"of who was the first Adam and Eve of Samoa?! He say/She say...Sa'o a le faataoto o toeaina I Samoa...." Tele Tupu." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.146.207 (talk) 22:37, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

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Who ever wrote this article is so irresponsible. The "story" about TuiSamoa Tuifeai and his defeat by Lutu and Solosolo is full of hogwash. How can you spread stories that you obviously know nothing about. Tuisamoa Tuifeai lived long before Lutu and Solosolo, who were related to the Tuisamoa family. Lutu lived in Siumu and Anoama'a. Because of their connection to Tuamasaga and Atua families of TuiSamoa, and their connection to the Tuitele, who originated from TuiSamoa (Tuitele was a son of Tuisamoa), Tuitele appointed Solosolo and Lutu to live in the bay area and take care of Mauga, the leading chief of Fagaloa bay, and the Falealili chiefs who are connected to Mauga, including Te'o, Fanene, Leota, and Sevaaetasi. Leone "made" Mauga and the Fagaloa Bay. Mauga is the "Tama Faasausau a Fofo ma Aitulagi". To help with the running of Fagaloa, especially Aua, Tuitele named and appointed Liufau to be the matua, and Paopaoailua and Tufaga le taulafoga are Liufau and Lualemaga to speak for Aua. Leone and Malaeloa are the two founding villages that ruled Tutuila under the talking sticks a le usoga a Fofo ma Aitulagi. Leone is where the traditional matai and anyone who came from Upolu, Savaii, Manono, Apolima and Manu'a sought permission first from Leone and Malaeloa because the Faatui lived in Leone and the older brother cheifs of Malaeloa were his council. They are the children of TuiSamoa. Aoloau and Aasu also belonged to Falealili and Malaeloa takes the lead in their council. What was said about Lutu and Solosolo seeking out Tuifeai is not true. Lutu and Solosolo came yesterday in comparison to Tuisamoa Tuifeai. They were appointed by Tuitele to live in the bay. TuiSamoa Tuifeai lived in Fiji and traveled to Samoa often to visit his people, and to ensure his island of Samoa was thriving. Sometimes he lived in Falealili or Faleula where his relitives and families still live to this day. TuiSamoa organized Malie and Auimatagi and he counseled Malietoa, who was his relative, to take the head title for Malie. Malietoa never "appointed" Tuisamoa. Poluleuligaga was Tuisamoa's son and he ruled Tuamasaga. Its about time to set the records straight. Don't say things to glorify yourselves when the real truth about them is buried because their honorific address came from Tuisamoa or his children and family. Totogata and Gauifaleai started the gafa for all royal families. They were the origins of all royal families of Samoa. Their sisters Moeleoi and Valasi started the "aiga" in Savaii. Tuisamoa was also the founder of the Manu'a islands and was known as the TuiManua, Tuifiti and Tuitoga. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tama.falealili (talk • contribs) 20:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

The history of Lutu and Solosolo are found in Dr. Kramer's books and other historical references. Sure, all our oral history has lots of add-ons with each telling. Germany needed to set the records straight concerning "faalagiga o Samoa" and did a very good job. The lineage they did on Lutu and Unutoa takes them back to 1321 when Malietoa ended cannibalism in Samoa. Oral history is watered down and lost for the most part except for names and landmarks which remain today. Give us some references, landmarks, historical records, etc. Instead of just repeating history through what you hear, give us the references in landmarks and records. The Tuitele and subsequent Tuis of Malaeloa are titles bestowed by Tuimanu'a on Leone when he camped there. Hence the Malae of Leone, Laloifi ma Falesau (Tuitele and his entourage slept in the open under the Ifi trees), and made his "mavaega" as he left Leone going back to Manu'a, le Faleomavaega. His mavaega are his "papa" left to as a salutation for Leone, Tuitele (King of many, fa'alagi as le "fa'atuiolemotu") which is the same for Tuimanu'a, including his various salutations as tuitasi, tuilefano, tuiolemotu, tuiagamoa, and alapalelei. These are landmark titles for malaes and chiefs noting an historical event. The Tuife'ai I refer to also has his lineage in Dr. Kramer's books and coincides with the stories and landmarks passed down from my father, grandfather, and greatgrandfather Unutoa. If you can give me records and landmarks, proverbial sayings and salutations, like "le launiu saelua" referring to my ancestors Lutu and Unutoa, then please provide such records and verification so I can correct our family history. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.52.31.242 (talk) 02:20, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

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Aua or Aua? -- Beland (talk) 08:53, 9 February 2024 (UTC)