Talk:Aubrey de Vere, 20th Earl of Oxford

dates

 * "On 12 April 1673, he married Hon. Anne Bayning .... Anne died in 1659 ...."

Come again?? &mdash;Tamfang 19:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Possible mistake
As of the date of this Talk comment, this article says that when the subject of this article died the title "Earl of Oxford" went extinct. There is evidence that it is dormant, not extinct. The Wikipedia article on "Earl of Oxford" consistently says it's dormant, not extinct. Further, two subsequently-created Earldoms convey a strong impression that the Crown has never been certain that there are no descendants (male-line if need be) of the 1st Earl of Oxford who might make a successful claim to the title. There are two many records of births to check, for centuries, to know for sure that the 1st Earl of Oxford doesn't have a descendant living today who meets the requirements of the original grant (and there are unusual cases where the title can descend not just from the original grantee, but from that original grantee's siblings (usually only brothers), or father, etc.. It all depends on the language in the original grant. If the Crown had ever gotten it nailed down beyond doubt that the title "Earl of Oxford" really was extinct (no living person met the requirements to inherit it), then the Crown would have re-created the title instead of creating "Earl of Oxford and Earl Mortimer" (which is ONE Earldom) and "Earl of Oxford and Asquith" (which is also ONE Earldom). The non-exact match of names was chosen because if the Crown ever created a person "First Earl of Oxford, 2nd Creation", and if after that someone came forward and succeeded in proving claim to the title of the First Earl of the First creation, then there would be two people called "Earl of Oxford" at the same time. The Crown doesn't like it when that happens and would like to avoid it (as was the case with "Earl of Mar", two of which exist, despite the fact that the Crown didn't like such a duplicate).2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 23:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson