Talk:Audi Quattro

Rally success
Article claims that quattro won first rally that it participated. That is not quite true. Hannu Mikkola dominated Monte Carlo rally with outstanding 8min lead but he was forced to end the rally due to technical problems. First win was taken in next rally.

And also although car was fast, it had many technical problems especially in first rally season.

I cant start editing article since my english skills are not good enough.

Results of rallies (not sourcing my claim about Hannu Mikkola): http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=season&champid=wrc1981

79.141.157.72 (talk) 15:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)Have_no_account

Brakes
I recall seeing a documentary about the Quattro on PBS many years ago. One of the things about the original/early rally car that has stuck in my mind is the fact that it had four pedals: one accelerator, one clutch, and two brake pedals (one for front, and one for rear, I guess). But, it's been so long that my mind might be playing tricks and this "fact" might not really be true. If anyone knows, it'd be an interesting addition to the article. I only remember some mention of it since the driver apparently wasn't doing very well when one of the first races started, but then suddenly realized how to properly use all of the pedals and then went on to win. &mdash;Mulad (talk) 19:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That is interesting... I'm 99.9% positive none of the road UrQs/SportQs had this configuration (mine certainly doesn't, I can barely heel-toe brake, that would be a disaster!), but I certainly wouldn't discount the possibility that one of the competitive builds had that setup. I'll check with some folks I know who are far more knowledgable than I.
 * Fox1 (talk) 01:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

One of the guys at my work place has a white 1986 Audi Quattro GT coupe. &mdash;Gm1121983 21:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Most of the in car footage of rally quattro's show the standard 3 pedal configuration, although 4 may have been used in a testing session. The most famous footage is Walter Rohl driving in car through Portugal. You can see his heel toe, and him steering the quattro A1 through parting crowds, crazy stuff. I cant remember any interviews on early testing mentioning this, but it may have been true as strange ideas were tested to gain any advantage.

The "0" Uribe car does not have 4 pedals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.197.203 (talk) 15:48, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

There is a system called "pedalbox" that enables using 2 breakpedals. The bigger and smaller one. Smaller one works only on the rear brakes and the bigger works mainly on front, but because the bigger pedal covers a bit of the smaller one, you actually press the smaller one at the same time while pressing the bigger. It is/(was?) mainly used on rally cars because you don't have to take off your hands from the wheel when you want to lock your rear wheels. These days there isn't any pedalbox on wrc cars. You get the same effect when pressing gaspedal and breakpedal simultaneously. Centerdifferential opens completely and when cpu notices that gas and brake are being pressed at the same time, it uses only rearbrakes so practically all the power goes to frontwheels. If you own a FWD car, you can try that. Preferrably on gravel and either with small gear (1st or 2nd) or then you need lots of power, because you need to use lots of power with the breakpedal. It's much faster than using E-brake and you can control the slide easyer if you have the guts and skills. 82.103.197.183 08:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge from Audi Quattro S1
This page is only 7.5k, and includes a section on the Qudi Quattro Sport. The Audi Quattro S1 page is a teeny little stub. I say merge. --DeLarge 20:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. Letdorf 12:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

Merge from Audi Coupe Quattro
This article is also quite small. Merge? Sounds good to me.

Merge from Audi Coupe Quattro
Although it is a small article, I do not agree with the merging because Audi Coupe Quattro and  Audi Quattro are different cars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.219.17.7 (talk) 17:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The word Quattro just says it all and that simply read merge. Willirennen (talk) 19:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Merge from Audi Coupe Quattro
I agree that there's no reason for merging the article because Audi Coupe Quattro and Audi Quattro really are different cars. Audi Coupe was equipped with N/A engines and Audi Quattro had only one engine option available per "evolution". There was 2.1 litre SOHC 10v turbo, 2.2 litre 10v SOHC turbo and 2.2litre 20v DOHC turbo. 82.103.197.183 08:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I would like to say even if one do not have a turbocharger, that still makes them the same car as they have the same body and the same drivetrain, plus turbo or non-turbo the 4wd coupe will still make them a Quattro as they are universally known as the Audi Quattro. Willirennen 17:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

You might want to have a closer look for bodypanels. Atleast the fenders are different between Coupe Quattro & Quattro.82.103.198.248 12:08, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Another vote against merging Audi Quattro with Audi coupe quattro. If anything, the Audi coupe quattro article could be merged with Audi Coupe GT. Captndelta 22:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Another vote against merging Audi Quattro with Audi coupe quattro. The quattro and the coupe quattro is different in body work as the quattro has new bumpers and wider fenders and the coupe has the 90 fenders and bumpers. and the wheels are mounted with 5 bolts on the quattro and 4 on the coupe.

i know this as im restoring a coupe quattro. greetings from norway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.202.235.2 (talk) 13:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Do not Merge from Audi Coupe Quattro
This debate should focus on the Audi Quattro (UR quattro, URI), the Audi Sport quattro, the Audi Coupe quattro, the Audi Coupe, and the Audi Coupe GT as they were all based on the same platform (Type 85). I think that it's important to keep separate pages for all of these cars, as each has it's own unique attributes. One of the problems that owners of these cars face is defining their own unique identities, and keeping that difference in the public eye. To merge all these types together will just make that worse. If you were to merge all these together, the focus would invariably end up on the rally success of the UR and Sport Quattro's, and the rest of the cars would end up as a very secondary footnote..... and this would be very unfair when you consider that there were 150,000+ made of the Audi Coupe, but only 11,000 UR Quattro's.

My personnal preference would be to see the following pages:-

1. Audi UR Quattro

2. Audi Sport Quattro

3. Audi Coupe quattro

4. Audi Coupe, Audi Coupe GL, Audi Coupe GT, Audi Coupe GT5S

5. Page on the rally history of the Type 85 Audi's with cross referencing links between all of these.

Rating
This doesn't look like a "start" class article to me, it's got images, and sources, and it's a lot longer than I'd expect a "start" class article. Not familiar with the rating system on this WikiProj, but I'm sure someone watching this page is. 86.151.62.124 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Audi Quattro 'S1'
I don't know when it came up, but the E2 version of the Sport quattro was originally never called 'S1' by Audi. Please see the discussion page the german version of this page, or the biography of Walter Röhrl ('Aufschrieb') on this common mistake. Quote:...'Der E2, von vielen fälschlich 'S1' genannt, wurde im Juli fertig.'... (translation:....'The E2, misleadingly called 'S1' by many, was finished in July'....) 194.24.158.1 (talk) 12:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC) I want to add that the E2 version was finished in July 1985 (not by the end of 1984). The main differences were: better weight distribution (70kg were moved from front to rear to increase agility, including oil coolers, radiators and battery), aerodynamic bodywork for increased downforce (the original Sport Quattro was very nervous), a new anti-lag system (which accounts for the great engine sound) and a power increase to roughly 530bhp. Unlike it's rivals and it's ancestor, the E2 didn't use water injection. The all new PDK-gearbox ('Doppel-Kupplungsgetriebe' made by Porsche) was first used in the RAC in late 1985. 194.24.158.1 (talk) 13:39, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmmm...so where did the "S1" moniker come from? Do you have any references in English for "E2" being the official designation? 13:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC).

Ashes to Ashes
This article should certainly cover the use of this model in the TV series Ashes to Ashes, but I don't think it's appropriate to include that in the lead section. Tasty monster (=TS ) 13:16, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Naming
Since the Audi quattro is trademarked with a lower case "q" shouldn't all the titles and references to the car on the page have lower case Qs? SchellZ (talk) 20:31, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Personally, I try not to give too much importance to what marketeers have to say. But I will remain neutral in this question, since the lower case q has been maintained for a long time by Audi.  Mr.choppers &#124;   ✎  07:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The way the article is at the moment is inconsistant. Some capital, some lower case. I just don't like having some subheadings with capital, others with lower case Qs. SchellZ (talk) 08:11, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The only guideline would be MOS:TRADEMARK - but that in itself is not especially helpful. The only phrase I would latch onto in the article is "...choose the style that most closely resembles standard English, regardless of the preference of the trademark owner" which suggests that (in this case) the Q should be upper case as it's a name - although that's only my reading of it.  I suppose other editors may have a different intepretation.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:43, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

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bore and stroke rallye quattros
Bore was not 79,3mm. This mistake is all over the net. It was a standard 79,5mm like the road cars. To reach 2134ccm (NOT 2133ccm!!) they re-grinded the crankshaft slightly eccentric to 86,0mm, with the use of slightly thicker bearing shells. regards, 2003:DC:F73D:6F00:9DB7:9F74:6747:EF7A (talk) 05:31, 11 June 2023 (UTC)