Talk:Audience response

Product Images
There seems to be a constant trickle of contributors adding pictures of hardware ARS devices. I'd like to open a discussion about the most appropriate devices to show. I would nominate the following: 1) Consensor, for historical context 2) Interwrite PRS, as the first widely adopted PRS and the readily recognizable example of IR 3) TurningPoint ResponseCard, the product which first showcased card-thickness miniaturization and led to their widely-cited growth and position as the current market share leader 4) The IML Connector, for being the product which can objectively shown to have the most advanced features. I'm open to a Reply Systems image given their market share and progress in the turnkey channel. If a definitive resource is necessary, we could turn to the publicly available analyses published by Futuresource. Jvyduna (talk) 08:01, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Brands
I think it would be interesting to compile a set of most popular brands and features of each particular clicker. For now, it seems that the article is too abstract. --IlyaV (talk) 06:25, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree. Doing so would invite every commercial website in the industry to post "their" benefits, resulting in totally spam. The article is abstract, but as an encyclopedia, it should be.Longcall911 (talk) 23:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)longcall911(talk) 23:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)longcall911

Bluetooth
Anyone heard of a blue tooth ARS system? --DennisDaniels (talk) 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

DIY
Anyone come across descriptions of how to build your own ARS? Thanks.--DennisDaniels (talk) 17:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Criticism?
This article is desperately missing a criticism section. Clickers are just awful. It is shameful that professors require students to purchase them. I don't need interactive gadgets to learn.Aikaterinē (talk) 03:35, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You might be overlooking the incredible overhead of administrative tasks that teachers are required to perform as well as the very real problem of gathering useful information from students in an effective manner. Try teaching a three months of classes to 100+ students and see how well you're A) able to first know the students and B) provide any real feedback on their performance.--71.135.129.218 (talk) 00:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Commercial Links
This article still has a lot of information regarding the applications of ARS rather than defining it. Furthermore, it gives an overwhelming amount of examples in an education setting when this is not the only application of ARS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradgessler (talk • contribs) 08:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * This article may have problems, but being a personal Essay, a Howto, an Advert, or a Newsrelease isn't the problem. It may have some sentences or paragraphs that resemble those genres, (so change them), but it isn't any of those as a whole. Somebody could add a Criticisms section if they think it's too glowingly positive. Mdmcginn (talk) 20:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Looking back through the edits most of them seem to be the adding and removal of external links. There are a lot of people here who are keen to remove external links they regard as inappropriate. This has resulted in no external links at all which doesn't seem very good. Interestingly  Loongtim deleted all external links, added one and then kept adding it back again as others deleted it. I've looked back through the external links, a rather time consuming exercise, and thought they were all useful so I'm adding them back in bulk. We'll see how long they last. --KenT 00:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * WP is not a commercial directory. WP guidelines specifically state that links to sites that "primarily exist to sell products or services" and "links mainly intended to promote a website" are to be avoided.  In other words, not permitted. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:EL#links_normally_to_be_avoided for more detail. This page is monitored, and inappropriate links will be removed.


 * That takes us back to no external links and I find the article more useful with some external links. I don't consider many of those linked sites primarily existing to sell a product or service. There is merit in your argument but a blanket deletion is too easy and too much like vandalism for me. If there is some you don't like, can you be a bit more selective in your editing. I'll put some back and I've added another to a directory of suppliers as well. KenT


 * External Links are for research papers, official industry organizations, government info pages etc. I have no problem with any specific link you are trying to add. It is the fact that all of them are for commercial benefit.  That is not Wikipedia's mission. Lots of editors spend huge amounts of time keeping WP an academic publication (WP is an encyclopedia) and they can use all the help they can get. WP does not need or want directory listings such as the Google directory. There are hundreds of directories where you can advertise your website, many for free.  WP is not the place. Please respect the Wikipedia guidleines KenT.


 * Isn't it appropriate to list the major suppliers of this technology? Mdmcginn (talk) 20:06, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No! WP is not for providing links to commercial enterprise.  It describes the technology only.  Links to vendors are not permitted accroding to WP rules, period.  If you're a vendor and wish to advertise, do so on search engines and directories, not at WP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.74.54 (talk) 19:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Stop spamming with external links. WP policy is "Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam.". I will remove your links to commercial sites everytime and your spam attempts will be reported/escalated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Longcall911 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I noticed in the laptops entry they have a brief list of major suppliers, which links to a specific wikipedia entry about laptop providers. Wouldn't that be a useful way to do this? I ,like I assume a lot of people, came to this page first to learn about audience response systems and second to then go find one when I figure out which kind I want. I consider myself a pretty decent search jockey, but finding the major suppliers of these things has consumer most of my afternoon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lawrencelinn (talk • contribs) 23:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Could there be a separate "List of Audience Response Systems" or "Comparison of Audience Response Systems" Article, similar to Comparison of raster graphics editors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.38.192.210 (talk) 20:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Commercial Links II
Another commercial link was removed Feb 10, 2009. Once again Wikipedia's policy on external links is:

"Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam." -- comment added by Longcall911 (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment was added at 14:00, 10 February 2009 (UTC).

Software/Cloud Based Audience Response
The focus of this page is hardware audience response, and includes photographs, of several branded hardware objects and only one tiny screen shot of a web based product. I'd like to see us break out software/cloud based only solutions for a discussion of their history, and the tradeoffs between the two. It's confusing for readers to conflate hardware with audience response since they are no longer synonymous. Fozzable (talk) 16:54, 25 February 2013 (UTC)fozzable


 * The final paragraph of the history section broaches this topic (re "no longer synonymous"; re "run what ya brung"), but no doubt more coverage should evolve in this article as the field advances. — ¾-10 02:26, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

History of Audience Response
I did some due dilligence, and cannot find anywhere else reference to "Audience Studies Institute" - Journal articles like http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1546144008002068 just ref. back to the Wikipedia page. Brand page http://meetingsupport.org/files/Turning%20Technologies%20ARS%20ROI%20Whitepaper%20(1).pdf cites Chronicle of Higher Education http://chronicle.com/article/Classroom-Clickersthe/6009 which gives no citation or source. Meanwhile, I cannot find any independent confirmation that such a company even existed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.241.198 (talk) 07:18, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

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