Talk:Audio description

Valerieinto 21:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

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I think it's dubious to be providing bare links to Ryerson's CLT research without setting up an entire section on research in general. It's especially dubious given the scarcity of published research from CLT. (It exists, but it's obscure and there isn't a lot of it. Nor does the article link to it.) &#8211; joeclark 19:52, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

State of the article
Apologies to Jsnyder42 over my assumption that the current version of this article was a copy/paste from somewhere else. I hope you'll understand, J (what is your first name?), that Wikipedia pages arriving fully-formed without an edit summary from an international expert on a subject is a very rare occurrence. While I have no doubt that the page is indeed your own work however, it does sound like a brochure. The following things are wrong with the current text:


 * POV language
 * One example: "Using words that are succinct, vivid, and imaginative, describers convey the visual image that is not fully accessible to a segment of the population and not fully realized by the rest of us—people who see but who may not observe." This is not wrong per se, but it does set an improper tone for a wiki page. It is also written in quasi-first-person, assuming as it does that "we" are not visually impaired.


 * No references
 * Having been written by an authority doesn't itself make a page authoritative. It needs proper citations, which is one of the improvements I made to the page I submitted. Fixing this one should be easy. (There should also be section headings, while we're here.)


 * Advertising
 * Wikipedia is very strict about advertising, and rightly so. "Recently the Center for Learning Technology has launched a new free web based video description service at (http://www.livedescribe.com). Describers can download LiveDescribe, a free video description authoring tool and create video description for video files such as avi, mov and mp4. Once the descriptions are complete, the description can be uploaded with one click to livedescribe.com. Blind or low vision audience members can then download the descriptions and play them back with the LiveDescribe Player (http://www.livedescribe.com/wiki/download.php)." While the above para would be considered harmless enough on most websites it is quite beyond the pale here. This does not further anyone's understanding of Audio Description: it's a product recommendation. The Audio Description Project paras aren't much better.


 * Linkspam
 * There are way too many external links, and not simply because there aren't inline citations. The examples section is particularly superfluous, as just one example in the introductory paragraph will suffice. The Canadian telly ones are 404ing BTW.

Others might point to your potential conflict of interest, but personally I don't care much for that rule as long as the article is good. I hope you can better understand where I'm coming from now, J. --Tom Edwards (talk) 20:20, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Content donation that is relevant to this article
VocalEyes recently donated 40 recordings of audio descriptions of notable buildings in London. These can be found here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_donated_by_VocalEyes Matthewcock (talk) 15:12, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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Merger proposal
I propose that Descriptive Video Service be merged into Audio description. Descriptive Video Service refers to work done by the Media Access Group at WGBH, but it has pretty much become a generic trademark for audio description, so it doesn't make much sense to have two separate articles explain basically the same concept/service. SpongeSebastian (talk) 00:24, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

If merged, Audio description must be identified than more than Descriptive Video Service as this services is provided in live theater and live arts productions -- quite different than a description that is recorded or embedded in video. AudioReadingService (talk) 17:24, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Descriptive Video Service
There is a huge amount of overlap here and no real reason to have separate articles. JDDJS (talk) 00:31, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

I support merge per reason previously stated. --SpongeSebastian (talk) 19:20, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I understand the desire to merge the two, but I feel that it is important to differentiate them, or at least merge the DVS article into the Audio Description one, and not the other way around. The reason being that DVS is one producer, admittedly a major one, but the technologically neutral descriptor for the tecnique is either Audio Description or Video Description (this alternative name is also cited in Understanding WCAG) -- Bpmcneilly (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * DVS is just a specific implement of the concept, though "described video" is the regulatory term used in Canada. ViperSnake151   Talk  04:37, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 22:43, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

"Silent films enjoyable by the deaf"?
I contest the following incorrect information:"Silent films could naturally be enjoyed by the deaf due to the lack of spoken dialogue or sound whatsoever. " How could silent films enjoyable by the deaf if a silent film also has a piano soundtrack deaf people would not be able to hear? --Fandelasketchup (talk) 10:47, 11 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi! A couple years late haha, but I'm also not sure if information regarding deaf audiences is relevant in an article that is about media for blind and visually impaired audiences. I support deletion of that line altogether. Goodlucklemonpig (talk) 23:00, 2 July 2023 (UTC)