Talk:Australian Catholic University

Public or private?
hello there thought i should start off the talk page. hi!!!

How can ACU be a public university when it is owned by a private company? matturn 06:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

It is a public university in that its funding comes from the federal government. There are 38 public universities in Australa of which ACU is one. There are currently two private universities in Australia: Notre Dame and Bond universities. Taken from ACU's website: "ACU National is the Australian Catholic University, a public university funded by the Australian Government and open to students and staff of all beliefs" []. Soundabuser 13:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Does not Notre Dame also get a lot of government funding? Bond is certainly eligible to get government funding. All three are owned by non-profit companies. matturn 06:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

To be honest with you I have no idea why it is the way it is. I dont know whether you can say that ACU is actually "owned" by a private company I believe it may just be a part of the legal requirements for a university. It is also spread over three states and a territoty. Most universities (I think) in Australia are established by state law, perhaps the multi-state nature of ACU made the formation of a private company a legal requirement. The fact remains though that ACU is a public university. Soundabuser 14:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * "Fact remains"? How can a fact remain without proof, especially when all evidence points to the contrary? It being a multi-state institution is of no relevance, it's previous single state institutions were private, and USQ, Charles Sturt and UNSW all operate over state lines. Australian public universities are all owned by state or territories, with the exception of the federal ANU. Bond, Notre Dame and ACU are owned by privately controlled non-profit companies. matturn 10:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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Student Template
If any students want to tag their profile page with a ACU userbox/categorise themselves, here is the necessary bits and pieces.

Copyright violations
This article consisted almost entirely of content copied directly from the ACU website. Unfortunately this is not acceptable content on Wikipedia, which takes copyright violations very seriously. Unless the content can somehow be released under Creative Commons/GFDL it cannot be used here. In any case, the content was not particularly encyclopaedic, reading more like a promotional website (which in fact it was). Accordingly, I have reduced the article to a stub. People associated with the university would also do well to review WP:COI (basically, it's not a good idea to edit the article if you have a conflict of interest (especially if you are employed by the university). Any questions, please feel free to reply here (I'll watch the page). Cheers, Basie (talk) 01:34, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

List of ACU people
Hi everyone, there is a separate article called List of Australian Catholic University people. No offence intended, but to me, this seems somewhat ridiculous. If that really is encyclopedic content at all, shouldn't it better be integrated into this article? --84.190.89.190 (talk) 13:36, 14 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Most articles about academic institutions include a list of Notable Alumni, but until a half an hour ago, this article had only one (who wasn't even listed in the Category 'Australian Catholic University alumni'!). I have updated this to show all in the Category, with a link to it in case any more are added to the category but not updated here. List articles are normally needed where the notable graduates number in the thousands, as for example List of University of Edinburgh people, so I agree this List article seems superfluous for now. Would you like to propose a Merge? Chrisdevelop (talk) 17:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Advertisement
This article certainly is written in a very promotional style and definitely deserves the COI tag.

One part I stumbled upon and am not quite sure how to fix is right at the beginning:


 * "ACU has grown rapidly"
 * Since when? Since its founding in 1991? Why would one pick a time period of five particular years to demonstrate its growth? This seems somewhat arbitrary - and extremely promotional. Also, for me at least, the link in the citation does not work.


 * "The university now has more than 32,000 students from 160 countries, and more than 2,200 staff."
 * When is "now"? "Now" is a very unencyclopedic specification. In addition, there is no source given for these numbers (unless they are in the first source which I cannot view).


 * "It has matched this growth with the expansion and upgrade of it campuses."
 * Though sourced, this sentence is just plain advertising style. Maybe someone has an idea how to reword it.


 * "ACU has an increasing involvement in research"
 * Apart from the fact that this is sourced with another reference from "The Australian" which apparently can be viewed by registered users only, this sentence is not very encyclopedic. "Increasing" only makes sense in a comparison. So: Compared to what, or compared to when? Compared to before 1991?


 * 190 global partnerships: o.k., but it should suffice to mention that once.

--84.190.89.190 (talk) 14:36, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Lede pruned
I have edited the lede for a close paraphrase of a copyright source, and removed glowing, non-neutral language. A reminder: if you are connected with the university, it's best not to edit the article yourself. Instead, post requests for additions or changes here so that neutral editors can make the alterations (if warranted). Cheers, Basie (talk) 07:40, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

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Catholic
The article does not make clear in what sense this is a Catholic university. In a country in which the Catholic church is not the state religion, how can a public university be Catholic? Does the university teach Catholic theology? Does it require attendance at Catholic services? Or is it "Catholic" only in name, as a result of historical derivation from institutions that were actually Catholic?Bill (talk) 06:07, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

As I understand it, it is Catholic in that the organisation is affiliated with the Catholic Church, and was founded with the intent of providing a university for Catholics (originally focused at people wanting to work in the Catholic Education System). Catholicism is not a requirement of enrolment, nor is observance forced. Catholic theology is taught, but only in theology/religion courses. It is possible to attend and not do any Catholic studies.

On the topic of 'Public' status, please note: In Australia, 'Public University' just means funded mostly by the government. ACU's website states "The University is a member of the publicly-funded national system of Australian universities". This is the context in which 'public' is being used. Tomorrow and tomorrow (talk) 10:18, 18 October 2021 (UTC)