Talk:Australian Football Hall of Fame

Name
Why is this page not at "Australian_Rules_Football_Hall_of_Fame"? This would seem to be the correct place for this page to be. Tancred 10:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Because the official name of the subject of the article is "Australian Football Hall of Fame". Snottygobble 11:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The official name of the sport is "Australian Football". Striker161 (talk) 01:01, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Article title
According to the Australian Trade Mark On-line Search System, "Australian Football Hall of Fame" is trademark number 898836, registered to the Australian Football League. Under Australian trademark law, the AFL has exclusive rights to the phrase, and it would be illegal for the FFA to use the name for their Hall of Fame or to market themselves using the phrase. This article must therefore remain at the current title. Snottygobble 04:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Small question
Under the legends part, it opens with: The Legends category is reserved for those who are deemed to have a positive impact...

Should that read: ...deemed to have had a positive...?

I understand that some of the legends are still alive, but I just don't think it reads right as it is. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  04:50, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

And another thing - I can't help thinking that this article just doesn't quite hang together that well at the moment, but I am at a loss to understand why. Perhaps it's due to the short intro - the long list of names, and then the odds and ends of info at the end - we probably need to make a better intro out of this, and to somehow unify the bits at the end a bit better so that the whole article comes together a lot better. Otherwise, I don't really have any concrete suggestions just yet (in terms of actual content). ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  04:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

You could argue that legends continue to have a positive impact posthumously. E.g. Jack Dyer (now deceased) is a touch stone of the identity of the Richmond Football Club. Theoretically, if it was discovered that one of the legends had committed a despicable act, perhaps their legend would cease to have a positive impact and thus their status could be reviewed. Striker161 (talk) 01:09, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Your comment is almost prophetic in retrospect after the Barry Cable findings. Electricmaster (talk) 06:00, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Suggestion
Could the Legends part, the most important part of the Hall of Fame, be designed as a single column such that there is a short summary of the player's achievements next to each name? So that people can see at a glance why they are legends of the game. The remaing inductees can remain as they are, double columned, with no additional info, just to highlight the importance of the Legends. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  08:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * (Responding to both comments) This seems like a good idea. I'd also like to see a couple details for all the others: Years of career, and year of induction. Perhaps the list(s) need to be farmed out to List of indictees to the Australian Football Hall of Fame. This would allow this article to focus on what is the significance of the HoF, how it works, the history, etc. and let the new page deal with the membership, with tables to give those few details for each member. What do you think? --Scott Davis Talk 14:50, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * +1 to Scott's idea. If the text before and after the inductees is to grow a bit more, it would seem a logical way to go.  I certainly agree that it would improve the look and flow of the present article and the adding of the details on the separate page, which may take a while, would not detract from the main article.  ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  23:19, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Check out the List of Australian Football Hall of Fame inductees - before I fill in all the details I'd like some consensus on the layout we should undertake.  R o  gerthat  Talk  11:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * seems ok - I deleted anything in the highlights that was already mentioned in the other columns, that seems the best way to go - the question then becomes what do we do about the other inductees? ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  14:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Legends
The website says there are 18 legends, but I'm counting 19 - where have I gone wrong? ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  07:12, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * On the subject, the individual articles on some of these legends are nothing short of a disgrace - I know it is not within our current scope nor our responsibility - but it makes me wonder - where are all the aussie rules loving wikipedians? Being a doggies man, I undertake to complete Ted Whitten, which is really a woeful article for someone dubbed "Mr Football".   ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  07:22, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

linked years for grand finals?
I think we should link Legends with premierships to theor respective pages, no? Electricmaster (talk) 08:32, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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Barry Cable removed from the Hall of Fame
As of today, Barry Cable has been removed from the AFL Hall Of Fame for bringing the game into disrepute. As such, it would seem obvious to remove his name from the list of inductees and Legends in the article. My only query is whether it should be mentioned he was in the Hall Of Fame, and if so, under what section of the article. Nerd 101 (talk) 09:00, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delayed, but I've made this clear in the article intro. My opinion is that it's important to mention while keeping the tone as natural and encylcopedic as possible. Electricmaster (talk) 05:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Use in external links
It seems to me that there is no section on player articles that shows their induction status into the Hall, but there are sections for club Halls. This doesn't make sense to me. Assuming this is true, I think it's pretty logical to include this, right? Similarly, I think there should be a smaller subsection for players with Legend status. After thinking about it, I think Legends should have both standard Hall of Fame and Legend status under the External Links section. Thoughts? Electricmaster (talk) 06:09, 24 December 2023 (UTC)