Talk:Australian passport

P-Series passports
I have uploaded a scanned front cover of a P-series passport (issued July 2014)...these only started to be issued quite recently. I have also updated the caption for the thumbnail appropriately. I felt this was a better way of showing the newer face of the passports instead of using the image on the DFAT site. Ahmadmuj (talk) 16:38, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Visa free access
Need to put up a visa free access list of countries, similar to "Malaysian passport" " British passport" etc.. From what i know, australian passports have same number of visa free access countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.122.228.82 (talk) 14:51, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Good job. Well done to whoever put up the new list of visa free access for Oz passports. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.165.192 (talk) 10:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep, and they should update it because it's wrong already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.164.18.239 (talk) 20:32, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Named links
I feel it is better to provide named links, to indicate the source (and make clicking easier) instead of the default number. I have done this for Chile and Colombia as examples, since the old web links were broken. I have suggested 'Timatic' for the database, city code followed by the word embassy or consulate eg 'CBR Embassy' and 'SYD Consulate', and common abreviation for government department eg 'DFAT'.--Advanstra (talk) 13:51, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

language
why is french used in the australian passport? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.203.222.244 (talk) 04:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess because French is the 2nd most understood language besides english? I think. And taking into account that the passport is give visa-free access for many countries in Europe, Canada and Africa and that French is a 2nd language in these places, it seems kinda appropriate for it to be used in australian passports...

Because French is/was the language of international diplomacy. However, I notice that the French text as it currently appears in the article is almost incoherent. Can anyone confirm that this is the actual verbatim text as appears in an actual Australian passport? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.68.58.23 (talk) 01:47, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

The French text in the article was a direct copy and paste of the Google translation of the actual English text. The text only appears in English in the passport, and thus I have removed the faulty French text from the article. 80.141.198.76 (talk) 13:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
Just was looking at my Aussie Passport (latest) and realised on the last pages there are lines that are made up of the words of Waltzing Matilda. Is this a wikipedia worthy fact? Also because of the electronic chip a logo resembling the Australian Aboriginal Flag has been placed on the cover of the Passport. I have no idea if this is intentional, but it is kind of ironic that an Australian document that does not contain the Australian flag seems to contain that of the Indigenous Australians (good on whoever did this if it was intentional!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.220.153.212 (talk) 07:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Isn't the logo on the front of the Australian passport the Australian coat of arms? JAJ (talk) 04:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

BOB!

Headline text
BOB--203.129.37.25 (talk) 00:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)By me

No, it's not intentional, that is the symbol designating a biometric passport - it appears on the biometric passports of all other countries as well. It's just a coincidence that it happens to look like the Aboriginal flag. 80.141.198.76 (talk) 13:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The use of the lyrics of Waltzing Matilda as underline text is quite interesting I think. In the L-series of the late 1990's it was Advance Australia Fair. - Gobeirne (talk) 19:00, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The words 'British Passport' on the Australian passport
The main article says that the words 'British Passport' were replaced by the words 'Australian Passport' on the front cover of Australian passports in 1949. It is not as simple as that. 1949 is indeed a significant year in Australian passport history, but it is not the date in question for this issue. I have read conflicting sources on this issue. One source said that Australian and New Zealand passports continued to say 'British Passport' on the front cover up until 1964. Another source was more detailed. It mentioned the reasons for the change and referred to official letters written on the issue in 1967. The point is, that up until 1962, Australians had automatic right of entry into the UK. This automatic right of entry was terminated by the 1962 Commonwealth immigrants act. Although this didn't have very much practical significance for Australians, it was nevertheless a bone of contention with some Australians. The letter in question referred to the irony of Australians carrying passports which said 'British Passport' on the cover, and yet these passports didn't give automatic right of entry to the UK. The source in question said that as from 1969, the words 'British passport' on the cover of Australian passports were replaced by the words 'Australian Passport' in order to reflect the new state of reality. I doubt if I could ever trace that source again. It was in a large book about the British Empire in a library in Suva, Fiji. The matter is further complicated by the fact that I have photocopies of Australian passports from the public records office at Kew in London. Only the later one of the two has the words 'British passport' on the front cover. The earlier one simply says 'Passport'. The two are identical in every other important respect. They are both black passports with the Australian coat of arms. the national status of the bearer in both cases is 'British Subject'. This date needs to be changed on the main article. David Tombe (talk) 16:04, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll change the date to 1969. If anybody can produce evidence to the contrary, they can change it back again. David Tombe (talk) 20:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


 * That reference appears to have since been removed from the article, but for what it's worth the minister's speech when launching the N-series puts the date at 1967.  -- Rob.au (talk) 10:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As I understand it two passport series were issued between 1949 and 1967, one for Australian citizens and one for resident but non-citizen British subjects. I unfortunately don't have a reference, so I didn't include it. — what a crazy random happenstance 12:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The statement that the words were replaced in 1949 is sourced to an archived webpage, but it is plainly contradicted by other, more specific statements from more current sources later in the same article. I am removing the statement. If anyone can resolve the contradiction - e.g. was "Australian passport" used for citizens and "British passport" used for all other British subjects? - please add the information into the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.255.185.235 (talk) 01:56, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Missing information - passport number length/rules/validation
As a web developer it would be great to know passport number length/rules - Is there a checksum? - Are they all 8 digits with a alpha followed by numeric - e.g. A1111111 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.144.27.101 (talk) 12:32, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Where's Paraguay?
Paraguay isn't in the table in the Visa-free travel section. How come? Aidanb (talk) 01:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Paraguay needs a visa (except for within Itaipu Dam). Checked with the embassy in Brazil. Pity. --Advanstra (talk) 04:33, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Update needed
An indeterminate majority of this article still refers to the old M-series passport. We need someone with an N-series passport to verify all the data contained about the passport, and note where things have changed. Updating the pictures would be nice too, but that's not urgent. I've added an update tag until this is fixed. — what a crazy random happenstance 09:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've checked and updated the information with respect to the N-series and removed the update tag. Let me know if there's anything I might have missed. -- Rob.au (talk) 10:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Good work. — what a crazy random happenstance 12:27, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Non-citizens with passport
Australian Passports issued before the Passports Act 2005 are not definitive proof of Australian citizenship. One phone call to DFAT will attest that, though they may try not to admit it. The only conclusive proof of Australian citizenship is a citizenship certificate. Some people renewing Australian passports are finding out they are not Australian citizens at all and have to gain citizenship before having a valid AUstralian passport reissued. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.83.19 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * A phone call to DFAT isn't really a reference we can cite, can you provide a source? — what a crazy random happenstance 23:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I reckon Wikipedia is a much more reliable source of information than DFAT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.97.245.84 (talk) 04:08, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a more reliable source then what an anonymous individual claims DFAT had said. If they want this data included they have to provide a reliable reference with which they can back up their assertions. It can then be included. That's how it works, folks. — what a crazy random happenstance 05:51, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Australian Passport Holders Penalised If Robbed
The Australian Government seeks to injure its citizens if they are the victims of theft or robbery. If you report a passport stolen the Australian Government will charge a penalty fare ON TOP OF the cost of a new passport. If your passport is reported stolen more than once the penalty increases at an exponential rate.

Australia - where stolen passports should never be reported - because the criminals treat you better than your own country does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.70.129 (talk) 21:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

They ask for that because to formally void the passport, it needs to be placed into a special status so it cant be reverted to working status.

unfortunately the computers cant differentiate between if you have just left it at a night club or if your house has been robbed, so if it's stolen you can request a refund of the $69 fee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiso88 (talk • contribs) 06:21, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

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Consider section on passport issuance relating to sex and gender diverse applicants?
Relevant link.

The passport office issues passports stating the holder's sex as male, female, or indeterminate (X), the latter being available to gender-nonconformant and intersex individuals with ease, and being intended to capture non-binary within what is possible under ICAO guidance.

Passports are issued under different gender to that previously used with either certain acceptable updated identity documents, or a particular form or similar freeform letter, completed by a doctor or registered psychologist.

Australia is one of the few places that issues X passports generally to its citizens, and has some of the most lenient requirements for it in the world.

Is this something that warrants its own article section?

ExoticViolet (talk) 17:08, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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Passport delays
Should there be a section created for passport delays? .@Photnart. (talk) 21:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

He or she used instead of singular they
I always see the words he or she used in Australian passports instead of the singular they, maybe it's considered grammatically incorrect and perhaps that's why it's never used? Or is there a different reason why singular they is not used in Australian passports?

Sincerely, Thenewright22 (talk) 09:38, 28 January 2023 (UTC)