Talk:Automotive industry in Brazil

Operation clarification and section optimization
/* Manufactures */ I don't think most of recent changes show active companies or street legal vehicles (non-prototype), Lexicar ("the source") may not reflect on recent brands and models, as well as having low information about cited companies, brands and models (such as if it's still active, when operations were ceased, etc.).

In any case, should the content remain, a new section would be appreciated, such as 'prototype models', 'experimental company', 'limited production' and so on;

Common meaning for 'manufactures' is "make (something) on a large scale using machinery", labor work is included but rarely considered.

Contributions and edits were made by 90.186.239.156,  188.109.177.231 ,  Ecangola , and others (if available), every contribution to this section is welcome. M. (talk) 21:44, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

/* Passenger cars currently offered & manufactured in Brazil in large Scale[edit] */ Honda Accord is no longer offered in Brazil, it was replaces with the Honda Accord Hybrid in 2021, please check Honda's website for more information: https://www.honda.com.br/automoveis/accord [Novo Honda Accord Híbrido - Eficiência que impressiona/Motor 100% elétrico com 184 cv e:HEV]. M. (talk) 15:44, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

VERSÃO EM PORTUGUÊS BRASILEIRO | BRAZILIAN PORTUGUESE VERSION
Diversas reversões (4) foram feitas com pouca base na alteração, tais alterações, como essa incrementaram o artigo, sem danificar o trabalho do editor não identificado e possivelmente camuflado em ao menos 5 IPs espalhado pelo mundo.

Ressalvo que toda edição é bem vinda, mas sugiro a divisão do artigo para melhor refletir no mercado atual e passado do BRASIL.

As reversões foram feitas por 92.218.124.109 sem base ideal para tal, já que são informações reais, verificáveis, com baixo ínidice de erro, além de incluir pequenas correções ao disposto artigo, sem interferir ou modificar de forma excessiva as edições anteriores:

Usuário apresenta comportamento agressivo contra membros da comunidade e regras do Projeto.

[...]  citacao a mim tem importânci quase que nenhuma  [...]

[...] a mim vale mais a experiência do dia a dia, de leituras e da vida no texto que isso de citar blogs e jornalecos de gente com menor info  [...]

[...]  it is same to you Adrian, if an Indonesian wants to make the poor edition instead of Brazilians, go ahead and destroy my good work, totally unnecessary , [...] '''please be off, do your indonesia but do not change this, you did already a shit in car spin... be off, take your moffa and go sightseen .'''

Tal comentário é infeliz e demonstra, além de um ato de diminuição, a tentativa de manter o total controle sobre um trabalho comunitário e com poder de revisão, correção e possíveis e eventuais modificações.

Me dispus a colaborar com o usuário, apesar de tudo, mas sugeri a divisão do artigo para melhor refletir no mercado atual e evitar 'inundar' o artigo com informações desatualizadas e fora dos padrões MoS de edição, um texto curto, que vá direto ao ponto é mais agradável a leitura; enquanto outro artigo ficaria responsável por incluir empresas datadas ou com baixo ou nenhum impacto real e confirmado no mercado nacional.

Desfazer edições boas, sem um bom motivo é imoral com os editores de qualquer artigo.  O usuário 92.218.124.109 deve EVITAR fazer qualquer tipo de comentário racista e/ou xenofóbico – como o observado neste sumário, contra outro membro da comunidade – dentro de sumários e páginas dedicadas, quaisquer que sejam. Uma edição de um usuário Indiano é tão bem vinda quanto a de um Chinês ou de um Americano.

TODA EDIÇÃO É BEM VINDA, mas esse artigo não é proprietário, como lembrou o usuário Andra Febrian, atacado em dito sumário.

O texto original em que o usuário me cita pode ser lido na minha Página de Discussão, a resposta também está disponível.

Possíveis endereços IP usado pelo mesmo usuário: 188.109.177.165; 92.218.124.109; 88.68.182.14; 90.186.219.36; 90.186.239.156; 188.109.177.231; 92.218.124.109;

AMERICAN ENGLISH VERSION | VERSÃO EM INGLÊS AMERICANO
Several reverts (4) were made with little to no basis, such changes, such as this one increased the article, without damaging the work of the hidden publisher and possibly camouflaged with at least 5 IPs around the world.

I emphasize that every edition is welcome within Wikipedia, but I have previously suggested splitting this article to better reflect the current and past market in BRAZIL.

These reverts were made by 92.218.124.109 without an ideal basis for such, since they are real, verifiable information, with reasonable mistakes, in addition to including small fixes to the article, without interfering or excessively modifying any of the previous edits:

User exhibits aggressive behavior against community members and Project rules.

[...] '''citation to me has almost no importance... the day-to-day experience,''' [...]

[...] quote blogs and journals of people with less information [...]

[...] it is same to you Adrian, if an Indonesian wants to make the poor edition instead of Brazilians, go ahead and destroy my good work, totally unnecessary , [...]  please be off, do your indonesia but do not change this, you did already a shit in car spin... be off, take your moffa and go sightseen .

Such a comment is unfortunate and demonstrates, in addition to an act of diminution, the attempt to maintain total control over a community work, with the power of review, correction and possible and eventual modifications. TRANSLATED QUOTATION, for precision please check the PT-BR version above

I was willing to collaborate with the user, despite everything, but I suggested splitting the article to better reflect on the current market and avoid 'flooding' the article with outdated information and wrong editing standards, a text that goes straight to the point is more pleasant to read; while another article would be responsible for including 'dated' companies or companies with little or no real, and confirmed impact on the national market.

Undoing good edits without a good reason is immoral to the editors of any article.  User 92.218.124.109 must AVOID making any kind of racist or xenophobic comment – as noted in this summary, against another member of the community – within dedicated summaries and pages, regardless of where they are. An edit by an Indian user is as welcome as an edit by a Chinese or an American person.

EVERY EDITOR IS WELCOME, but this article does not belongs to someone, as user Andra Febrian recalled, prior to being attacked in said summary.

The original text in which the user quotes me can be read in my Talk Page (in portuguese).

Possible IP addresses used by the same user: 188.109.177.165; 92.218.124.109; 88.68.182.14; 90.186.219.36; 90.186.239.156; 188.109.177.231; 92,218,124,109;

M. (talk) 22:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)