Talk:Automotive industry in Russia

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Currently there is this general navtemplate, which includes the Russian car manufacturers:

I think, however, there is some point in creating a separate Template:Automotive industry of Russia, which will include both Russian manufacturers and Russian automobile brands. Grey Hood  Talk  20:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. The first row is pretty crowded anyway, so it would be good to split. Offliner (talk) 12:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Number of employees
The only figure I could find about the number of employees in the industry is from 2005. Presumably, the number has risen a lot since then. Do you happen to know a newer number? Offliner (talk) 12:25, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This source says 370,000 in 2009, down 24% from 2008.
 * This source says 2.5 million are employed in the automotive industry and affiliated industries. Grey Hood   Talk  21:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

To do
The article has improved a lot recently, but I'd still like to do a few things before it gets to main page (via WP:DYK).
 * Write a list (or preferably prose) of the most popular Russian models
 * Integrate GAZ into the key companies section (looks like it's main business these days is vans, trucks, buses, etc. instead of passenger cars?)
 * Insert info about AvtoVAZ and GAZ joint ventures with foreign companies?
 * Write something about production of buses, tractors, special vehicles, etc. Mention at least the largest companies making these products.
 * Expand "economic significance" section. Nanobear (talk) 08:27, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Scope
I'm somewhat unsure about the scope of this article - does "automotive industry" include the production of tractors and other heavy machinery that moves on wheels or tracks? If yes, lots of the machine building sector could be included here. Or perhaps we need a separate Machine building in Russia article? Nanobear (talk) 11:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * According to the article ru:Машиностроение in ru-wiki, "tractor building" and "automobile building" are two different branches of "middle machine building", while large heavy machinery that moves on wheels is a part of "heavy machine building". So I think the scope of this article is good enough, and the tractor industry in Russia should either have its own article or should be included into the article about machine building in Russia. Grey Hood   Talk  17:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

bad approximation
It is stated more than once that Russia is the 15th car producer and responsible for 7% of the world production. It suggests that world production is at least 105%. Now, of course I can understand it is a approximation, but the result is still not as clear as it could be. Moreover, the source is broken. Frohfroh (talk) 22:11, 13 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm going to strike the last line from the lede. Since it's pretty much unreliable and bogus. According to RT's projections from July 2013, Russia will probably be Europe's largest car market by 2016, and be one of the global leading players in 2020. In 2012 Russia was the 7th largest market, behind Germany (5th) as the leader in European car market by 2012.


 * However, the EAS and KPMG's Global Automotive Retail Market (Sept. 2013), confirm, that Russia probably going to be by 2016 the largest car market in Europe, as the Study forecast. JestersTM (talk) 12:54, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

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