Talk:Ave Maryam/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 13:11, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

 * In the infobox, add a release location after "11 April 2019".
 * I trimmed to just the theatrical release.
 * The film premiering at the Hanoi International Film Festival should still be mentioned.
 * Done.


 * Running time and box office parameters need references.
 * It's covered in the Release section, so I don't think it's needed.
 * "1 hour 25 minutes" "85 minutes"
 * Done.
 * In the infobox, link Rp.
 * Done.
 * "Ave Maryam was premiered" "Ave Maryam premiered"
 * Done.
 * Did the film premiere at the Hanoi International Film Festival or the Tempo Film Festival?
 * The Tempo Film Festival does not have screenings; they merely share accolades and no showcase of the film.
 * The sentence "It attracted an audience of 80,000 in 39 theaters nationwide." seems unnecessary in the lead.
 * Removed.
 * Everything else looks good.

Plot and cast

 * "dipite the sisters" "despite the sisters"
 * Done.
 * The sentence "The 10-year-old (now 12) Samarangan has her debut here" should probably be moved to #Production.
 * It would be really weird to have a single paragraph stating that. I don't think there are problems with this.
 * I think the issue is that the sentence doesn't sound like something from Wikipedia and also sounds trivial.
 * , hmmm, why? I think it's worth noting that a major role had her debut here. Doesn't sound like WP:TRIVIA to me.  Gerald WL  07:45, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, the "10-year-old (now 12)" doesn't sound right. Maybe change it to "The then 10-year-old Samarangan has her film debut here." And it also feels off that she's the only one with a description, so that's why I recommend moving the fact to #Production.
 * ✅ Chompy Ace 20:53, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Production

 * A reference is needed for the title being changed.
 * Does it need references? The fact that other sources after the Hanoi premiere title it Ave Maryam is basically a reference in itself.
 * Per google translate: "We wanted to make the film honestly, so we've taken that risk" "We are making this film honestly, so we are ready to bear the risk"
 * Done.
 * This reference doesn't actually say filming ended on 5 December 2016, so add a reference that does or just mention that filming ended after nine days.
 * I think that using basic calculation, we are safe to assume such, right?
 * Well, it depends if the article is counting 26 November as one of the nine days, or if its saying filming ended after nine days from 26 November.
 * Done.


 * "realized she is Muslim after production" "realized she was Muslim after production"
 * Done.
 * Since it was just moved: "The then 10-year-old Samarangan has her film debut here." "Additionally, Nathania Angela also stars in her first film role" or something similar.
 * ✅ Chompy Ace 23:32, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Music

 * Citing the credits after "Rooftopsound" doesn't seem right. Try finding a secondary source.
 * Removed.
 * Same issue after "Saras vocalizes the melody".
 * Removed.
 * The final sentence needs a reference.
 * I think the film in itself makes of a fine primary source. If people want to know if the song is actually the stated titles, they can just listen to it and verify it.
 * The whole point of Wiki-articles is to have enough sources that verify information without the need of watching the subject, in this case, the movie.
 * Well you have book sources, video game sources, movie sources. Paywalled sources are definitely hard to access, but the whole point is that there is encyclopedic information in it. I tried finding online sources about the featured hymns, but there are sadly none.  Gerald WL  07:45, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Release

 * "Ave Maryam was premiered" "Ave Maryam premiered"
 * Done.
 * There are references for the film getting 42,044 and 77,000 viewers, but a citation is still needed for the 80,000 viewers.
 * Removed.
 * Remove the sentence "The film is rated 16+ on Netflix." as it seems trivial.
 * Done.

Reception

 * "..." "[...]"
 * Done.
 * Everything else looks good.

Accolades

 * All citations in the references column should be centered.
 * Done
 * "Best Supporting Actor" "Tempo Supporting Actress Choice"
 * Done.
 * Additionally, the award should be in alphabetical order per consistency with other articles.
 * I'll do this (and the first point) later on. I don't think this is a violation of the MOS, and I don't think it has to be reorded just because other articles does so.  Gerald WL  17:34, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, the suggestion was to make it easier for readers. Having the list in order depending on the first column is an example of WP:OTHER.
 * ✅ Chompy Ace 21:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)