Talk:Avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder

More headers?
Maybe elaborate more under the symptoms header, including a separate header for warning signs. A separate header for health consequences may also be of interest to list.

Veronicag123 (talk) 20:11, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Inconsistency of definition
The article says that this is the name of the problems autistics have with eating certain food due to texture or aroma. Then it progress to say that the disorder may caused by an incident and may be cured with cognitive behavioural therapy. This is simply wrong. It is a mixup of two completely separate disorders. Such problems, when caused by an incident, is a psychological problem and may be cured. When the cause is autism, the problem is due to the "hardwireing" in the brain, and generally cannot be cured (unless the person grows out of it, may happen until one is about 20, when the brain stops to develop), despite willingness to try. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.118.137 (talk) 15:29, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * ARFID like most mental disorders is a cluster of symptoms. In this case it does not claim to be a separate illness. The symptoms could occur because of several different causes, like Autistic spectrum disorder (neurodevelopmental disorder), or OCD or a phobia (anxiety disorders). People with Autism can learn to do things differently, despite the hardwiring. Whether you want to call that 'treatment' or 'masking' depends on your point of view. Egmason (talk) 23:46, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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Unreferenced article
This article is totally unreferenced per WP:RS, WP:V, WP:FN, WP:CITE. I removed references to living persons per BLP as the information was not cited. What is it's DSM diagnosis if it is a psychological disorder? Regards,  Mattisse  14:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Vegans = sufferers of SED?
Let's say someone avoids proteins from animal sources in one's nutrition because of suggestions from current cancer research. Would this person be considered to have selective eating disorder? The article's current definition would mean this. --Abdull (talk) 07:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The definition includes "associated with an unwillingness to try new foods" - vegans are willing to try new foods, as long as those foods are vegan. Rm999 (talk) 00:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No. Sufferers from SED don't *choose* not to eat food X; they feel that they *cannot* eat such foods and often show physical signs of gagging at the prospect of performing such an act.  Vegans and vegetarians, on the other hand, are simply making the choice not to eat certain foods.  I'm sure that most of them would say that they are able to eat the foods they choose not to, whilst SED sufferers would certainly not.--82.9.43.210 (talk) 18:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No. Some vegetarians and vegans feel a physical revulsion at the idea of consuming dead flesh.  Most of us are physically capable of being cannibals, but the thought of eating raw human flesh revolts us - we would likely gag if made to try to eat it.  In the case of an ARFID sufferer who can only eat sausages and pasta (as per the current BBC News story), would they gaga if the sausage contained another food item concealed by being finely minced - since British sausages contain all sorts of strange additives anyway?2.31.164.11 (talk) 12:54, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Nicole Schutte. I am Janice Vian, Ph.D. in psychology and a long-time clinical practitioner. Whenever I hear about avoidance behavior based on smell, (and related stimuli such as texture,) I am reminded of the "trigger" stimuli for migraine and seizures. Avoidance of such triggers is very important to the people who are sensitive to them. Many children have migraines, although this is not generally appreciated. A child, or adult, who feels terrible after exposure to a particular food, is likely to develop an avoidance, but that avoidance would not be irrational. Of course, children are unlikely to say things like, "Broccoli gives me migraines." Thus, their avoidances are likely to be treated as irrational. And, of course, stimulus generalization is a relevant process: a child who has headaches after exposure to a specific vegetable can easily generalize that avoidance to all vegetables that are the same color, and so on. It is important not to simply assume these avoidances are without good reason. Janice Vian, Ph.D. (talk) 06:33, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Food pickiness
Should we have a distinct article for "picky eating" (rather than the current redirect here) that covers normal variation in food pickiness/fussiness rather than ARFID? Plenty of literature, e.g. this just out.

I wrote this years back, and it's full of citations to earlier literature: Potts HWW, Wardle J (1998). The list heuristic for studying personality correlates of food choice behaviour: a review and results from two samples. Appetite, 30(1), 79-92. Bondegezou (talk) 10:57, 29 April 2016 (UTC)


 * How do you tell the difference between a "fussy eater" and someone with ARFID? My brother could only eat pizza, nothing else, not even baked beans.  But he was just a "fussy eater" according to our mother. 2.31.164.11 (talk) 12:55, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The article gives diagnostic criteria at Avoidant/restrictive_food_intake_disorder. Bondegezou (talk) 18:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The key for a mental disorder is the word 'disorder'. In ARFID it needs to cause significant weight loss, nutritional deficiency or significant functional impairment. If you think there should be a 'Food Fussiness disorder ', then you would need to convince either the DSM or ICD committees. As an article on its own, the page Selective eating (see below) looks like a good start. Egmason (talk) 23:58, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

I have now changed fussy eating, fussy eater, picky eating, and picky eater to point to selective eating instead of this article, as they are not just related to ARFID. I agree that picky eating in general (unrelated to food neophobia and ARFID) should probably get its own entry.--TempusTacet (talk) 19:18, 15 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, and everyone else. As suggested, I have turned the selective eating disambiguation page into a stub article. In the spirit of Wikipedia, it is a bold start to give us something to work from, but it definitely needs more work! Bondegezou (talk) 11:00, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hi! For a university writing assignment I was tasked with adding information to this article. I changed the introductory section a bit and added a section under the signs and symptoms heading with information about the relationship between ARFID and anorexia. I also added a section on some newer treatment options that are being researched. I hope these are helpful edits, I used only recent peer reviewed research articles published in the last year or so.

StudentC820 (talk) 17:35, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * First, I've moved this discussion to the bottom of the talk page. Talk page guidelines call for discussions to proceed from top to bottom in chronological order to keep discussions better organized. Second, I've removed your section on newer treatment options. This section was based largely on preliminary results from primary research, but WP:MEDRS recommends the use of review articles that aggregate the results of several to many primary studies, since it is common in medical research for early results to be unreproducible or even completely overturned by later studies. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:38, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

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I will be editing the page sometime between now and the 17th of February with the intention of adding more information on how to diagnose this condition and what challenges this may present, and what distinguishes this condition from simple picky-eating and Autism. I may also add a bit about how this condition can be treated with newer methods. I will base this mostly off of articles that are accessible through Google Scholar and other widely accessible sources so that my changes can be traced back and verified. I expect this will be around 750-1000 words altogether, I will check back in once I have submitted my changes.

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weight gain is also an issue with arfid not only loss
hello there the information that weight gain is also an issue of arfid is missing. Not only are people underweight but some are also overweight. British and American studies have confirmed this maybe someone could look into this more thoroughly and add it to the list of symptoms. thank you 2A02:908:F44:35C0:7169:5159:530B:1BB4 (talk) 07:39, 9 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for this prompt. I found a source and added a note stating that ARFID affects folks across the spectrum, when it comes to weight. Carrie McLaren (talk) 17:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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Is it alright if I add this sention? Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorder Due to Pediatric acute-onset neuropsychiatric syndrome (PANS) An assessment of symptoms and onset of these symptoms must be completed in order to determine if someone has obsessive-compulsive and related disorder. This can be caused by pediatric acute-onset neuropsychiatric syndrome (PANS) that is characterized by a sudden onset of obsessive-compulsive symptoms or severely restricted food intake. These conditions together can lead to additional neuropsychiatric symptoms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiger Daisy (talk • contribs) 18:10, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

May I add this paragraph about autism spectrum disorder and ARFID? Autism Spectrum Disorder:

Children with autism spectrum disorder are more likely than other children to have atypical eating behaviors[1]. Although this is a common symptom of autism and in some cases certain eating behaviors are attributes to autism, autism spectrum disorder and avoidant-restrictive food intake disorder are not mutually exclusive. The most common symptom seen in patients with both autism and avoidant-restrictive food intake disorder is sensory-based avoidance, however fear-based restriction and lack of interest in food are prevalent in this population as well[2] If eating behaviors are clinically significant and severly impacting consumption, a person will be diagnosed with avoidant-restrictive food intake disorder in addition to autism spectrum disorder[2]. the numbers are sources I have in my sandbox and will be added when the information is added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiger Daisy (talk • contribs) 19:02, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Rejecting all foods or are some allowed?
When I used my search engine for "disorder where people eat only one food" and "selective eating disorder" the results lead to this disorder, under multiple links, including Wikipedia. Someone I know presents some of these symptoms, where she rejects both normal foods and unusual foods due to fear of stomach aches and unusual smells causing sensations to her appetite. However, the main focus that I have with her situation is that she eats the same microwaved food every day, and she will eat a little bit of other things, but has a strong preference for this boxed junk food. There have been times in her life where she has chosen other objects as her select food of choice, such as an exact flavor of poptarts. She has gone days without eating if she could not have those. What I want to know is if this disorder includes those people who have only eaten one kind of food for months or years. Some people have internet fame and even been featured on TV for only eating one kind of food for many years. But they don't necessarily starve themselves. Some say that they would, if they couldn't have their food of choice, but those people eat consistently. They just choose only one kind of food, typically junk food. Those people definitely have a kind of eating disorder, but is it this disorder that the search engine suggests it is? This article seems to say that it's for people who reject ALL food regardless of what it is, not those with specific "picky" preferences for one thing, but it might appear as picky because of their complaints. So is this for people who may dabble in a variety of foods but starve themselves at times due to fear of getting sick (physical pain and sensory reactions), or for people who focus only on one exact type of food and reject the rest, or both? Wacape (talk) 14:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


 * ARFID can present in different ways. Some folks are super picky, limiting intake to few foods; others have low-appetite and don't eat enough to grow/meet nutritional needs. Carrie McLaren (talk) 14:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Title change?
I think the title of this page should be changed to first cap each word and remove the slash. ARFID in the DSM is an acronym for Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder. I don't know how to do that, though. Carrie McLaren (talk) 14:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Spelling Error?
In the first paragraph, the word “unlike” seems to be misspelled. 47.183.25.29 (talk) 09:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Anorexia
The second paragraph in the Anorexia section is about the DIFFERENCES in AN and ARFID rather than info on how they can co-occur, so I think it needs to be rewritten. I will work on it unless someone else wants to tackle. Carrie McLaren (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)