Talk:Avon Park, Florida

Expansion
I added an infobox and quite a bit of information to this article, but it needs a lot more before it's useful. There is a sad lack of information available on the web for the city's history, and I'm not sure if the books cited by the Avon Park Historical Society on their website are available (I'll be checking the UF library soon). If anyone actually has this on their watched pages list, and can contribute useful information, please do so. The second paragraph of the history section is really just an excuse to cite the article from the Sarasota Herald-Tribune, which backs up a couple of the items I cited in the infobox (such as the city's nickname). I wouldn't mind seeing it disappear if we can expand the history section into something halfway decent. Horologium t-c 15:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey Horo, what you did to this point was excellent... Avon Park does have a pretty decent historical society, although its online presence simply isn't. I'm only a fly-by editor I suppose but as I come up with stuff I'll add to it. Sidestreamer 07:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Callsigns
Please stop removing the suffixes from broadcast callsigns. They are part of the call & are relevant. For instance, WINK specifically is an A.M. radio station on 1200. However in this article, WINK is referred to as a T.V. station. This is incorrect. WINK-TV is the T.V. station. One user keeps deleting this as well as the -LP suffixes to WAPQ & another LPFM. This too is incorrect as the proper callsigns have -LP suffixes according to the F.C.C. database which is the only authority in the U.S. for callsigns. This aforementioned user keeps on deliberately deleting suffixes saying that the F.C.C. doesn't matter in this case. As these stations are licensed, they most certainly DO matter. After personally spending 12 years in radio (including now) this is annoying, misleading and INCORRECT! Good thing I'm going on vacation starting in a few minutes!Stereorock 17:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not questioning the accuracy of your position about the FCC call signs, as that is not under dispute (you are correct). However, the FCC designators are not needed in this context; we are discussing the local service providers for a town of less than 10,000 people. The links point to WAPQ-LP, WINK-TV, and WFLA-TV (note it's two TV stations, and only one LPFM station, contra your claim). The two TV stations are listed in the "Television" section, which makes it clear that we are not discussing WINK (AM) or WINK-FM (note the redlinks, they don't even have articles of their own yet), or WFLA or WFLA-FM; WINK-TV does not use the phrase at all, on their website or on the air. For the LPFM station, the linked article makes it clear that it is an LPFM station, there is no need to repeat it ad nauseum. Note that I have responded (using substantially similar verbiage) at the IP address you used previously to edit this article. Horologium t-c 17:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The suffixes are needed as they are part of the call. When said on air, it is a 6-letter-long string (W-A-P-Q-L-P). Additionally, the other station is WWMA-LP/107.9. I will be adding that shortly. Yes, the "WAPQ" link does go to WAPQ-LP, however when people see WAPQ on this page they are going to assume, incorrectly, that the call is JUST WAPQ. Granted, -LP is not as well known a suffix as -FM or -TV but it is still correct. For argument's sake, anyone coming to Wikipedia is going to hope that the information contained is the most accurate although there is skepticism. Why then keep any inaccurate information? It's not supposed to be easy to understand, it's supposed to be the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth (I am paraphrasing). Just out of curiosity, do you live in Avon Park or nearby because I am curious about WFHT.Stereorock 20:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I do not live in Avon Park, but I have family nearby, and I lived in, and have vacationed near Fort Myers every year for over 30 years now, and consequently am familiar with WINK (and no, they don't say "W-I-N-K-T-V" or even "WINK-TV" on air, just "WINK" or "WINK 11".) I am not familiar with WFHT, and have not been terribly successful in finding out anything at all about the station, which is why it is still a red link. (I am not sure if the format is correct, since I found that at a source that is not always reliable or accurate.) I was the editor who wrote up almost all of the radio station stubs for the Sebring and Gainesville/Ocala markets, and I left WFHT off because there was nothing to work with. The LP stations also tend to be difficult to source, since they almost never have websites of their own, and several of them (WWWP-LP, for example) appear to be geared towards Spanish language markets, and my knowledge of Spanish is marginal at best. (One session of Spanish in college doesn't cut it for comprehension.) Horologium t-c 21:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter what your "position" (as stated by your revision on November 12th) is, facts are facts. The facts are that the stations have suffixes, WWMA-LP DOES exist (check it with the F.C.C.) and changing to anything contrary is misinformation, plain and simple.  Also, once an hour, WINK-TV HAS to identify as such or else they are in violation of 47CFR73.1201.  They may identify aurally or visually.  Now, some stations have a habit of not identifying properly.  When I worked @ WQIK-FM in Jacksonville, they never used the -FM suffix which they have to do & yet their co-located AM ADDED an -AM suffix which is just as illegal as there are NO -AM suffixes assigned to AM broadcast stations!!!  Any station identifying as WXXX-AM for their Top-Of-Hour ID is wrong.  They can do it as a branding, but not as a legal ID.  The station in question WAS WJGR (now WBOB).  They said WJGR-AM in their T.O.H..  Similarly, here in the Providence area, WSKO wrongly identifies as WSKO-AM.

As for WFHT, all I know is that it is owned by Michael Cardillo of Cranston, R.I. through his company, Odyssey Broadcasting. This fact was stated on a recent non-commercial filing for 2 stations in the recent non-commercial F.M. filing window. Unfortunately I do not know any programming information for certain. "Urban A.C." in broadcasting usually implies a station that leans towards the older adult black listener and therefore features soul, Motown, maybe '70s & '80s R&B. I have heard through the grapevine what else is on but it is unverifiable. I know what you mean about some stations, such as WFHT & WWWP-LP, not having websites thereby making verification impossible. The only things that can be verified for broadcast stations are @ this point through the F.C.C. and if a station hasn't kept the F.C.C. up to date, it too is wrong, AND ILLEGAL.

Wouldn't it be funny if, after all of the above, WFHT IDs as WFHT-AM. WHOOPS!Stereorock 01:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

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