Talk:Aylesbury child sex abuse ring

Unexplained tagging
has twice added tags to the article, without explaining why. It's reasonable to remove them, unless and until they give an explanation here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:53, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * done Uamaol (talk) 13:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree. I didn't think the tags were right, but I left them there while I asked Uamaol to explain what the problems were. He didn't reply, so I removed them. CurrentUK (talk) 10:30, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Multiple issues
Uamaol (talk) 13:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The manual of style makes it read more like a newspaper article, rather than one of an encyclopædia.
 * The article uses far too many quotation marks, especially when unnecessary.
 * There are way too many direct quotes, which makes the article sound story-like and/or from a newspaper.
 * Some information, such as ethnicities, background and specific actions, appear irrelevant/ out of the scope of the article.


 * I still think that you haven't justified the "close connection" tag - which should only be used if you have some evidence that an editor has a connection with the subject of the article (that is, the victims or the perpetrators). In any event it could be construed as WP:OUTING, which is not allowed.  I suggest you withdraw that claim, while consideration is given to the others.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:24, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Done Uamaol (talk) 13:27, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you explain why you made the claim in the first place? It's a serious accusation to make and I still don't know why you made it. CurrentUK (talk) 10:30, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I've been asked to comment on this and it looks a lot like WP:TAGBOMBING. The article isn't all that bad (I've seen worse) and tagging should be kept to a minimum. If it is that bad, WP:SOFIXIT rather than adding tags.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:44, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree. If it wasn't WP:TAGBOMBING, why has Uamaol made the "close connection" claim and (so far) declined to explain the reasons for it? CurrentUK (talk) 10:30, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Close connection claim has been withdrawn. I am still curious as to why you assumed it was you I was referring to. Uamaol (talk) 22:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You're not curious -- you're evading the question in exactly the way I would expect. I repeat it: Can you explain why you made the claim in the first place? If you can't, there is an obvious conclusion to draw. CurrentUK (talk) 10:53, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you a mind reader? Conclusions have already been drawn, civility is clearly not one of your traits. Also, can you please refrain from removing maintenance tags when work clearly has not been undertaken on an article. Uamaol (talk) 00:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Please could you provide a more specific list of things about the article that are badly wrong. Ideally, edit the article rather than tagging or complaining about the actions of other editors, neither of which contribute significantly to article improvement.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
 * "civility is clearly not one of your traits". Does your deep attachment to civility explain why the question I first asked on your talk-page on 11th January went completely unacknowledged there and is still waiting a reply anywhere else? Here it is again: Can you explain why you made the claim of "close connection"? One would expect someone as ethical as you to have no problem explaining his motives, so it's deeply puzzling that you've still not done so. (I say "his" because, as you note, I'm a mind-reader). CurrentUK (talk) 10:56, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Does your deep attachment to this article give you the right to question every single edit to it? I refuse to answer your question due to you clear hostility with me on the subject as well as with you past lack of civility with correspondence with other editors. This is a talk page, not a forum. Do as you will. I'm done with this! Uamaol (talk) 23:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

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