Talk:Aymara people

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Some suggestions from just reading through for those who are working on this page. In the History Section, Tiwanaku is mentioned twice, but it is not explained how that relates to the Aymara people and the Aymara are not mentioned on the Tiwanaku page either.

Also the page talks about Aymara populations in modern Bolivia, Peru and Chile, but the geography section only discusses Aymara locations in Bolivia. The connection between the Map of Chile to the Aymara is also unclear. I understand the Aymara have had a more central political role in Bolivia but the politics section could use some information about Aymara in Chile and Peru as well to balance the page.

I hope this helps with making the page more comprehensible Dvine16 (talk) 23:14, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Removed the pseudo-linguistic pap about Aymara's conception of time, being neither psychologically nor linguistically valid, and on the same level as saying that all languages are descended from (modern) Basque.

I removed a lot of material that was relevant to the language not the people (or so I think). I also made the link to the language page clearer - It took me some time to discover there was actually also a seperate page on the language, and I suspect that's why other peopel added some stuff here that should have been on the other page. The history has been cut up a bit, and I changed the stats from "language speakers" to "aymara people", tho I'm not sure how valid that is ... it could take some reworking by someone who actually knows about that stuff ^-^ (I also deleted some outdated discussion) Flammifer 04:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The stats are not in line with the stats from Bolivia, which says there are 2m Aymara in Bolivia alone. DanKeshet 22:59, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * I think the stats up are for Aymara language speakers (leftover from when the page was about both), but apparently some ethnic Aymara don't speak Aymara language. DanKeshet June 28, 2005 22:05 (UTC)

I think this page needs to have a disambiguation page. I almost didn't find the page on the language, much like a previous poster mentioned. --Alcarilinque 28 June 2005 13:36 (UTC)
 * There's a template for that sort of thing, surely, right? DanKeshet June 28, 2005 22:05 (UTC)

Population?
Why does the 1st paragraph of this article say that they have a population of 2.3 million but the infobox says they number 1.6 million? Which one is right? --Hottentot 01:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure. I think I wrote the 2.3 based on an online source. But I suspect there are conflicting, and no authoritative, figures. --Stbalbach 03:55, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

i removed the catholic missionary link. it has NOTHING to do with the aymara.

I have updated the Aymara population numbers for the latest national censuses from Bolivia(2001), Peru(1993) and Chile(2002). Adding up the three countries yields a total of 1,951,167 which I rounded up to 2.0 million total speakers. It is probably higher today considering population growth, especially in Peru since 1993. I also deleted the part about Aymara living in Salta, Argentina, because I have been unable to find any reference to Aymara in Argentina, except for recent immigrants coming to Buenos Aires from Bolivia. I have checked the books of a number of experts in Andean linguistics (Cerron-Palomino, Adelmar, etc.) and none mention any Aymara in Salta, Argentina. There are, however, Quechua in Salta, Argentina and I think that someone has confused the Quechua with the Aymara. Amosbatto (talk) 05:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Name of article
The name of the article, "Aymara ethnic group", seems kind of redundant. Wouldn't "Aymara people" or just plain "Aymara" be sufficient? -- ざくら 木 11:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

"related groups" info removed from infobox
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all Infobox Ethnic group infoboxes. Comments may be left here. Ling.Nut 23:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

A long time ago, under the reign of Xiclitchli, the Aymaras lived in peace at Tihuanaco, until the day the fair haired man appeared. He wore a metal mask, and controlled the fire of the gods: the Solar disc. He overthrew the king of the Aymaras, and became the God of Gods, Nyarlatothepec, the Rampant Chaos --217.127.191.232 (talk) 20:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Height?
This article: human height which links to Aymara people shows the average height of an Aymaran as the shortest amongst all those listed which makes me surprised that the same information isn't included somewhere in this article. Should it be? Sxg169 (talk) 20:00, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

did the Aymarans have any art? Stone Routes (talk) 21:26, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

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Requested move 13 January 2024

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus that "Aymara" would be correct, but no consensus to move to that title due to Aymara being a dab page.

Editors who believe that this is the primary topic for Aymara may open a new multi-part move request at any time. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 05:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Aymara people → Aymaras – Like Romanians, Finns, Ukrainians. Aymaras is mentioned in the article. Lucjim (talk) 23:54, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Ethnic groups, WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the Americas, WikiProject Chile and WikiProject Peru have been notified of this discussion.  Kiwiz1338 (talk) 13:27, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Move, but not to the proposed target, but to Aymara. This is the case of other indigenous peoples of the Americas, such as the Mapuche, not Mapuches. Bedivere (talk) 14:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Move to Aymara, as per User:Bedivere. Many Indigenous names are already plural and adding an "s" doesn't clarify anything. The Spanish-language Wikipedia prefers "Foos" as a standard for "Foo" ethnic group, but the standard for Indigenous peoples of the Americas in the English-language Wikipedia is either "Foo" or "Foo people", when the primary topic is contested. Yuchitown (talk) 17:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown
 * Oppose While I would concur with "Aymara" (and not "Aymaras") as the proper plural, "Aymara" is a disambiguation page, which includes entries like Aymaran languages, Aymaraes Province, etc. Under the circumstances, "Aymara people" is necessary.  Walrasiad (talk) 03:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Walrasiad. WP:NCLANG notes, "Where a common name exists in English for both a people and their language, it is most often the case that neither is the primary topic." If necessary, this could be closed and a new multimove request made to determine whether there is a primary topic. Dekimasu よ! 04:45, 21 January 2024 (UTC)