Talk:Azad Kashmir/Archives/2023

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2022
Helloworld2778 (talk) 18:46, 25 September 2022 (UTC) the name azad kashmir promotes terrorism and is a denial to the Kashmiri Hindu Pandit Genocide it should be changes to pakistan occupied kashmir asap.
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. This is obviously a contentious topic, and you will need consensus to implement this change. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC)


 * It is highly condemnable that wikipedia is promoting the language (Azad Kashmir) used by jihadists and islamic extremists.
 * This article should be titled "Pakistan Occupied Kashmir".
 * 1) Azad means free. Pakistan occupied Kashmir is not free in any sense.. There was no plebiscite held there at all. After committing genocide - killing and converting all native Hindus, Islamists occupied the land and calling it Azad is a farce.
 * 2) Kashmir name comes from the Hindu sage "Kashyapa" and is holy to Hindus. Wikipedia should not support its occupation by the Islamic republic of Pakistan Sumukhs2013 (talk) 20:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Why should we build consensus to change the name to Pakistan occupied Kashmir? First answer how consensus was formed to make the title as Azad Kashmir which is a language used by jihadi terrorists and islamic extremists. Sumukhs2013 (talk) 20:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Why should we build consensus to change the name to Pakistan occupied Kashmir? First answer how consensus was formed to make the title as Azad Kashmir which is a language used by jihadi terrorists and islamic extremists. Sumukhs2013 (talk) 20:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Azad Kashmir is a state
Officially, it is described as "The State of Azad Jammu and Kashmir" Since Indian administered J&K is referred to by local terminology ("union territory") shouldn't the lede here also mention that AJK is administered by Pakistan as a self governing state? H&#38;K GA3 (talk) 11:20, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * We need WP:SECONDARY sources to take any congnizance of this claim. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:33, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:PRIMARY sources can be used for this as long as analytical conclusions are not being drawn by editors - here, I am directly quoting an official source with no analysis of my own. H&#38;K GA3 (talk) 04:30, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

We should not blindly accept the official name given by a country to a disputed region. Especially if the name is promoting hatred, political and not neutral as per Wikipedia policy.. Title should be Pakistan administered Kasmir Sumukhs2013 (talk) 04:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2023
Azad Kashmir is Pakistan occupied Kashmir or PoK. Anurag02401 (talk) 14:12, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * See the "Frequently asked questions" at the top of this talk page. – Uanfala (talk) 14:16, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * How do we correct this title? Why is it locked? This is extremely bad Sumukhs2013 (talk) 20:05, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

ans = no, Azad Kashmir is a political term used by radicals in Pakistan and not neutral.

Neutral it should be called Pakistan administered Kashmir Sumukhs2013 (talk) 04:23, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

STOP Promoting Terrorism and Islamic extremism by using their language and rename this to "Pakistan Occupied Kashmir"
1) The name Azad Kashmir is used by terrorists and Islamic extremists who want to completely eradicate all Hindus from the region. Already 99.9% of Kashmir has become Islamic. The Hindu sage Kashyapa from whom the name Kashmir is derived is sacred to Hindus

2) Factually Azad which means "free" does not make sense as there was no plebiscite held there as per UNSC resolutions. UNSC has asked Pakistan to withdraw its military from the region which it has not done yet. Sumukhs2013 (talk) 20:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)


 * See the FAQ:
 * "Q1: Why doesn't the article describe the territory as 'Pakistan-occupied Kashmir'?  A1: For the same reasons that Jammu and Kashmir isn't described as 'Indian-occupied Kashmir'. Wikipedia follows usage in reliable sources and adheres to a neutral point of view." – dudhhr talk contribs (he/they) 21:06, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Azad Kashmir is a political term used by jihadists who want to complete their genocide of Hindus in Kashmir.
 * You can call it Pakistan administered part of Kashmir rather than occupied which is more neutral. Azad Kashmir is not neutral and promotes hatred against Indians Sumukhs2013 (talk) 13:53, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

"Azad Kashmir" is the region's literal name, which is why it is used on Wikipedia Uzek (talk) 14:04, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * It is the name used by Jihadists and those who promote terrorism and genocide of Hindus in Kashmir.
 * They have killed all the hindus there and hence calling it Azad i.e. free of Hindus. Sumukhs2013 (talk) 14:06, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

No, it was named that by the Pakistani govt Uzek (talk) 14:12, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * @Uzek@Dudhhr
 * And just because an Islamic quasi dictatorship adds a political adjective to a state's name of a disputed region, it becomes the "neutral" perspective? As I have mentioned before the name "Azad" (meaning free) Kashmir is a term coined by Jihadists and Mujahideen who want to "free" Kashmir of Hindus.
 * Wikipedia should not be part of promoting this hateful narrative against the Hindu minority of Kashmir.
 * Please consider renaming it to "Pakistan administered Kashmir" Sumukhs2013 (talk) 07:02, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

So? Just because the Islamic government of Pakistan chose a divisive and political name to a disputed region, it cannot be called neutral.

It should be called Pakistan administered Kasmir from a neutral point of view Sumukhs2013 (talk) 04:29, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * "Azad Kashmir" is undoubtedly the most recognisable name for the region. Now see WP:COMMONNAME – it's a Wikipedia policy, which means it's binding on editors. — kashmīrī  TALK  11:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Pakistan Occupied Kashmir is the most common name for the region. Practically nobody on earth refers to it as Azad Kashmir let alone people who had to run away from the region when Pakistan invaded. The entire population of India refers to it as Pakistan Occupied Kashmir and thus by sheer numbers it is a more widely recognized common name for the region than the propagandist Azad Kashmir which the Pakistan Administration calls it. Abackle (talk) 01:47, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Neither "Pakistan-administered Kashmir" and "Pakistan-occupied Kashmir" refers to this entity alone — the terms encompass both Azad Kashmir and the Gilgit-Baltistan region. Even if we were writing from an Indian point of view, we'd want to have separate articles about the two areas, and merging them into a single article would be a poor way of covering distinct regions with millions of residents.  It would be analogous to merging Daman district, India with Diu district and Dadra and Nagar Haveli on the grounds that they're all a single legal entity.  Nyttend (talk) 19:49, 5 March 2023 (UTC)