Talk:Azerbaijan–Turkey relations

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Created page Baristarim 00:46, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

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The first paragraph is full of misleading nonsense
"and having strong cultural, historical and ethnic ties."

Had to make an account for this. There are absolutely no strong cultural, historical and ethnic ties between Turkey and Republic of Azerbaijan. Only similarity is that they both speak Turkic languages.

When it comes to religion, Turkey is Sunni and Republic of Azerbaijan is Shi'ite. Why do you think that is?

Historical ties? The name of Azerbaijan is the name of an Iranian province and Caucasia used to be part of Iran for thousands of years.

When it comes to culture, Republic of Azerbaijan is closer to Iran, and second to Caucasia. Their "folk dance" which was recently introduced to them 100 years ago is the same as Georgian and North Caucasian dances. Turkish dances are similar to Armenian, Iranian, Greek and Kurdish dances. Go and look it up and see for yourself. They celebrate Newroz in Republic of Azerbaijan, it's an Iranian event. The event was banned in Turkey under the guise of "stopping separatism" because Kurds celebrate it and they removed the ban in beginning of the 21th century, and the only ones in Turkey that celebrate Newroz are the Kurds and NOT the Turks. Food and customs in Republic of Azerbaijan are closest to Iran, second to Caucasia and third to Russia.

When it comes to ethnic ties, their DNA results are mostly Iranian and funnily enough some of their politicians wanted to ban DNA testing because of it.

Sickofthisbs (talk) 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Many articles/books have been written about this matter. A good article dealing with this is: Çakır Ceyhan Suvari, Elif Kanca. (2012). "Turkey and Azerbaijan: On the Myth of Sharing the same Origin and Culture." Iran and the Caucasus (16: 2). pp. 247-256 - LouisAragon (talk) 20:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I read it and it admits they are only linguistic relatives and not cultural relatives which means this part needs to be cut out entirely from this article: "having strong cultural, historical and ethnic ties". Sickofthisbs (talk) 13:54, 25 April 2021 (UTC)


 * You are free to tweak the material in the article as long as you cite WP:RS sources and pay attention to all other guidelines. You don't need to ask anyone permission for that. - LouisAragon (talk) 15:32, 28 May 2021 (UTC)


 * It doesn't say who put it there and no source was provided to substantiate it and the link you gave proves that there is no historical and cultural link between the two states, I'll be removing that part then. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Azerbaijan%E2%80%93Turkey_relations&diff=982491303&oldid=982422521. Sickofthisbs (talk) 18:34, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

I found this. A Caucasian Turk by the name of Muhammad agha Shahtakhtinski wrote in 1 May 1891 in The Caspian that the Russians referred to the Caucasian Turks and other non-Turkic Muslims in the region as "local loyal Persians", and to bypass Russian censorship, they preferred to be called Azerbaijani to signal their desire for reunification with Iran because the Persian province Azerbaijan is located right below the South Caucasus. https://medium.com/@cavidaga/how-to-call-transcaucasian-muslims-c6c753c782d5 Sickofthisbs (talk) 18:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Mutual intelligibility
Turkish and Azerbaijani are mutually intelligible. This situation forms the basis of the expression "two states, one nation", which is of critical importance for the diplomatic relations of the two countries. I think this information should be included in the article. Kyzagan (talk) 17:35, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Is there a better source for Footnote 47?
As the source is depreciated per RFC: Electronic Intifada and this is an area where the source has significant bias, a better source would be desirable. Does someone have one? FortunateSons (talk) 16:27, 26 January 2024 (UTC)