Talk:Azerbaijani Americans

"Protesting" image


An editor is attempting to add the image at the right, with the caption shown here, to the article. I object to this because:


 * Neither the image nor the caption provides any real context - "protesting" what? A "pro Nagorno Karabakh Republic event"?  What is that? What is going on in the image.


 * The image itself hardly shows a "protest" of any kind. I see about a dozen people carrying various flags.  There are no signs, and no organization that can be seen.  Perhaps 20 minutes later this became a protest, but the image certainly doesn't show anything like that.

The editor, who also took the picture and uploaded it, says on my talk page that " Azerbaijani Americans are politically active, there is a section in the article attesting to this fact, and the picture, in turn, is a perfect representation of that activism" but I disagree -- the picture is not a "perfect representation" any any kind of activism. What it shows is some unidentified people carrying flags (or preparing to carry flags) near the US Capitol.

I have absolutely no objection to an image which well represents Azerbaijani-American political activism being in the article, but this picture adds nothing. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

"Predominantly Shia"
An editor is attempting to add the claim that Azerbaijani Americans are "predominantly Shia" to the infobox, and when asked to provide sources, added several that showed that the population of Azerbaijan is predominantly Shia. Unfortunately, the one does not necessarily follow from the other. Consider that situation where a country's minority population is severely repressed by the majority. In that case, the minority population could well make up the majority of those who choose to leave the country. I'm not saying this is the case in Azerbaijan, just that it points out the need for sources that specifically support the contention that Azerbaijani Americans (and  not  the population of Azerbaijan) are "predominantly Shia". Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:43, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. We also need a source that shows they are even predominantly Muslim to begin with, let alone Shia. For all we know, they could be Jewish, Orthodox Christian, Baha'i, Zoroastrian. We need sources. Without sources, there is no way to be sure. For example, my own Grandmother was born in Baku to a Jewish family. Obviously not Muslim. The Scythian 14:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to your removal of "Predominantly Muslim" if you think it's a controversial fact and needs to be sourced. Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:11, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think it a controversial fact, but you have a valid point. Without a source(trust me, there really isn't one) on immigrants to the Unites States from the rather newly independent nation state of Azerbaijan, it is best to leave it out. An "Azerbaijani" is technically only a nationality, and not an ethnic group(i.e Azeris for example, most of which actually live in Iran). Pigeon-holing them with predominantly anything needs a clear source, and as such the data appears lacking. On the other hand, many of the articles relating to this region are constantly under attack by ideologues of one flavor or another, which only compounds the issue. No source, no inclusion is probably the best route to take. The Scythian 15:23, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:52, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

WP:RSN thread regarding reliability of source
One again, an editor is attempting to insert material into this article which contends that the number of Azerbaijanis in the US is an order of magnitude greater then reported by the US Census. I have questioned the reliability of the source of the latest figures, and posted a comment asking for opinions about it here, on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It would appear that there may be confusion between Azerbaijani with Azeri. Unlike Azerbaijani-Americans, Iranian-Americans have some substantial sociological research done into their backgrounds(larger numbers + academic departments, funding etc). In fact, there is no shortage in that area, and figures for ethnicity and religion are available, even if sometimes contradictory. The Scythian 17:07, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

List of notable Azerbaijani Americans
This list is quite surprising, since it claims to list some notable Azerbaijani Americans. It should only include people from the republic of Azerbaijan living in the USA, not Iranan Azeris living in the USA. I would like to have other editors' opinion about this. Thanks. ---Wikaviani  (talk) (contribs)  19:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

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