Talk:BBC News (international TV channel)/Archive 1

Web access is very limited
For many their access via the internet is not live TV; just a collection of undated video clips. This fact was buried in the article. I moved the info regarding web access into a subsection within availability. I checked out the Korean site mentioned in the article, there is no English version so I can't verify if a stream can be found there.1archie99 (talk) 14:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

BBC World on PBS stations
How does this relate to the half hour BBC World program broadcast on American PBS stations? Rmhermen 00:43 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering the same thing &mdash;Mulad 18:57, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * They are the same programme (simulcast off BBC World) but I doubt if they need that much detail, it would make more since to say that some BBC World News programmes are broadcast on PBS stations in the United states. : Keith :: 12:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

CNN
Doesn't BBC World compete with CNN International more than with CNN? CNN is only available in the U.S. and in Canada, while BBC World is absent from most American cable or satellite distributors, unless you pay for it. Bobsky 01:20, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"CNN International" is only known as such by North Americans. It is known as CNN to nearly all it's viewers elsewhere, despite it having a longer official name. Note that there are three or four different feeds of CNNi, as well as national versions like CNN Japan - all these are known locally as CNN, and nearly all compete strongly with BBC World. matturn 05:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Is it appropriate to describe the new 'ribbon-round-the-world' feature as 'morbid'?

the BBC News 24 article seems to do a better job at explaining the hourly countdown, to be frank I was rather confused by the sentence structure until I read the description on that page.--166.121.36.7 01:22, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

News Issues
I have updated this page to cover issues of newsworthiness, bias and propoganda. I have started a general page looking at sat tv media in the asia-pacific and I have been working through their wikipedia pages and including issues, references and facts about the quality and reliability of their reporting.

Pberrett 02:25, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

BBC World Broadcast Details
Anyone know whether or not BBC World is broadcast in 16:9 widescreen and other related technical details about the broadcast? Swarve 13:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


 * AFAIK BBC World only broadcast in 4:3. But, as the image link below shows, it is filmed in 16:9 Widescreen (which is standard in BBC Television Centre) but is zoomed into 14:9 for broadcast, hence the black bars at the top and bottom. http://www.informativostv.com/informativostv/images/BBC/bbcworld/bbc_world_world_business_studio_foto.jpg. The image was taken a while ago but I think that it is still how they broadcast their output. I'm sure there is someone who can explain it better than I can. : Keith :: 15:51, 17 November 2005 (UTC)


 * This was added to the article where the rest of the information had been cleared. It is more than likely that was vandalism rather than someone unsure of how to edit since it was an anonymous IP number that had editted previously. This was what was added:

NTL:||not available NTL Ireland:|| Channel 219 Telewest:||not available Chorus Communications:||not available Wikiwoohoo
 * Terrestrial Analogue:||not available
 * Terrestrial Digital:||not available
 * Satellite:||Sky Digitalnot available


 * I assume that data is meant to be in an infobox somewhere, its looks correct for BBC World as most of the UK channels don't have it. Swarve 05:35, 18 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Are there reputable sources for BBC World being available in the United States (full-time)
 * There are advertisements currently promoting it on BBC America after news programmes. - Keith Greer  [[Image:Flag of Northern Ireland2.svg|30px]] 12:54, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


 * According to TV Forum. BBC WOrld will laucnh in the US later in 2006 albeit branded as BBC World News (why?)

Chop Chop Chop
Somebody deleted a lot of the text on the page. This has wasted a lot of peoples hard work. I have now reinstated the version of 16 Nov which is the most recent more or less complete version.

It may be (ironically enough) that someone is trying to censor discussion about BBC World? Go figure.

Administrators please keep an eye on this page.

Pberrett 12:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Section removed
I have removed the following section from the main article and replaced it with a link to Category:PBS_stations_in_the_United_States_that_air_BBC_World_News which I created as its replacement. Wikiwoohoo 21:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

The section had been named Some PBS stations in the United States that air BBC World News and contained these links to stations:
 * CPTV &mdash; Connecticut
 * MPT &mdash; Maryland
 * NJN &mdash; New Jersey
 * UNC-TV &mdash; North Carolina
 * VPT &mdash; Vermont
 * KAET &mdash; Phoenix, Arizona
 * KBTC &mdash; Tacoma, Washington
 * KCET &mdash; Los Angeles, California
 * KCPT &mdash; Kansas City, Missouri
 * KCTS &mdash; Seattle, Washington
 * KERA &mdash; Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
 * KLCS &mdash; Los Angeles, California
 * KOCE &mdash; Orange County, California
 * KQED &mdash; San Francisco, California
 * KTCI &mdash; Saint Paul, Minnesota
 * KVCR &mdash; San Bernardino, California
 * WCFE &mdash; Plattsburgh, New York
 * WCNY &mdash; Syracuse, New York
 * WETA &mdash; Washington, D.C.
 * WGBH &mdash; Boston, Massachusetts
 * WHUT &mdash; Washington, D.C.
 * WLIW &mdash; Garden City, New York/New York, New York
 * WLVT &mdash; Allentown, Pennsylvania/Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
 * WNET &mdash; Newark, New Jersey/New York, New York
 * WNPT &mdash; Nashville, Tennessee
 * WNVC &mdash; Fairfax, Virginia
 * WPBA &mdash; Atlanta, Georgia
 * WPT &mdash; Wisconsin
 * WSIU-TV &mdash; Carbondale, Illinois
 * WUSI-TV &mdash; Olney, Illinois
 * WUOM &mdash; Flint, Michigan
 * WTVS &mdash; Detroit, Michigan
 * WYCC &mdash; Chicago, Illinois

Suggestions
Is it possible to have that text box on the right without having that huge white space at the beginning of the article?

Is it necessary to have the "founder" and "key people" parts in that box if nobody can find out who they are?

The reputation section might go like:

The BBC has a reputation amongst many for independent and accurate reporting of news and current affairs. However, being the most recently established of the BBC's media entities, BBC World carries advertising, which some believe damages its capacity to report impartially.

Though generally considered quite accurate, BBC World has occasionally made mistakes, as in the incident where on the twentieth anniversary of the Bhopal disaster, the 3rd of December 2004, BBC World was duped into broadcasting an interview with a hoaxer (later revealed to have been Andy Bichlbaum, a member of The Yes Men) claiming to be a representative of Dow Chemical offering a $12bn settlement to the 120,000 surviving victims of the Bhopal disaster.

The part about "the details are unclear" under "censorships" seems unnecessarily provocative. The details are available on the BBC's own website i.e. and, etc. But if nobody wants to get into it maybe you could just delete that "the details are unclear" part.

Finally, if someone wants to write the BBC World history part, the information to write it can be found here .Katsam 11:23, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Anti-American Statement
Does anyone else think this statement in the article "Due to Americans' perceived lack of interest in international news, it took 11 years for a US distribution deal to be signed....." is a bit Anti-American and needs to be re-worded? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.201.26.234 (talk • contribs).
 * The reason the channel has had trouble getting added to American satellite and cable networks is that Americans are perceived to not really care about international news from a foreign perspective. I'm not really sure how else it could be worded, any suggestions?  theKeith  [[Image:Flag of Northern Ireland2.svg|30px]]   Talk to me    00:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * How about just mentioning that the channel has had trouble gaining and American audience...and not mentioning the "perceieved lack of intrestest" as it seems to sound more like an opinion statemnt than a factual one.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.201.26.234 (talk • contribs)


 * I'm an american, and i'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of it, so i don't know why there is a percived lack of interest.Seamus215 23:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think the statement is anti-American. What it ultimately says is that the cable companies, who COULD carry BBC World, didn't think (ie perceive) there was a market for yet more international news.  What I think is questionable, however, is why there is no reference or citation.  How do we know that this is the reason BBC World wasn't carried?  Perhaps they thought that it was a load of rubbish!  Sorry, I can't get the tildes working on this keyboard to sign this post.

Cable links
So does that mean that each and every cable system gets listed in the abstract? What decides what cable systems get listed and which ones don't? That being the case, I'd suggest leaving the individual cable systems out; certainly some cable systems need to be mentioned within the body of the article itself -- Cablevision in NYC is a special case in that regard, but in order to be fair, I'd strongly insist that the cable section be left out of the abstract. --Mhking 22:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Breakfiller
"On most feeds of BBC World, commercials are inserted by the cable or satellite provider similar to other channels" Does this actually happen in practisce? having watched BBC World in Spain, France, Sweden, Norway and a Korean feed I´ve never seen this happen. --Adamcobb 19:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes it does. Where providers do not show adverts, the breakfiller is used. Otherwise adverst relevant to the broadcaster and country and inserted. The section on the breakfiller could do with a bit of a tweak perhaps though. Wikiwoohoo 21:22, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Does anybody know who made the breakfiller tune, and where one would be able to find it?--Ómar Kjartan Yasin 14:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The BBC news themes are composed by David Lowe. The BBC themes are not available commercially, although you can listen to some on his website.   theKeith   Talk!   14:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * YouTube to the rescue! Here's the current breakfiller music. I've been looking for it too. Pacific Coast Highway {blah • Spinach crisis '06! • WP:NYCS} 03:18, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Deleted schedule
This section with a schedule violated section 1.7.7. of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and may also violate copyright. It should not be added back to the article. A similar thing happened with BBC News 24. Hopefully, much of this content however can be integrated into the article, mostly as a simple mention. By this I mean mentioning specific programmes or possibly notable presenters. I have added some of this already. Wikiwoohoo 18:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

BBC World Presenter Schedules (Weekdays):

0500-0800GMT: Lucy Hockings

0800-1200GMT: Martine Dennis

1200-1300GMT: George Alagiah. World News Today: launched on the 3rd of July to appeal to the Breakfast audience in America. It goes out at 7am ET in the US. The programme was originally titled NewsHour in earlier publicity.

1300-1600GMT: David Eades

1600-1800GMT: Nisha Pillai

1800-2000GMT: Nik Gowing

2000-2100GMT: The World with Zeinab Badawi

2100-0100GMT: Mike Embley. Katty Kay joins Mike during the 2300 programme from Washington, as this bulletin is also shown on BBC America.

0100-0500GMT: Overnight Service from BBC News 24. Presenters include Alastair Yates, Martine Croxall, Deborah Mackenzie and Jake Lynch.

Some other presenters on the channel: Peter Dobbie, David Jessel, Kirsty Lang, Jonathan Charles, Geeta Guru-Murthy and many more.-->

Horrible vandalism
On the article page, it says: ---

SATANIC CORRUPTION Ladonian Ambassador 30/11/06 20:41 Execute all Shinawatra's agents who have been involvwed in terrorising children and women and others. Shoot Mr Winn-Pope, Baxter and Crawley. Arrest Temasek Directors

Ladonian Ambassador 30/11/06 20:39

Please will the Thai Police stop the broadcast of mychildren's voices with them being hurt tortured and injured. If not then please will NATO/USA bomb all the Thai Police Stations

and so on...

In the History, it says that this section was removed, but it still appears in the article! Today it the 4th of December, which means it has been there for four days. I first thought that it might be an outdated version of the article, but I have reloaded it several times. Is that a Wikipedia bug? 129.206.111.174 09:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Project Phoenix (BBC)
Project Phoenix (BBC) will be BBC's largest-ever investment in an international news-based magazine. If anyone knows any information about it, please add and work it into BBC World's article. Mkdw talk 20:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Reputation and Criticisms - Reasons for partial deletion
I have removed three dubious sentences that did not have any source to back them up. - not working. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.152.28.78 (talk) 00:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

Images
I felt that the number of images within the article was beginning to become to high and since they were also all placed at 260px, decided to remove some, while resizing the rest. The images I removed can still be found within their respective programme articles. Wikiwoohoo 19:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Distribution / BBC World programming in the United Kingdom
On the morning of the 1st September 1997, BBC1 did hand-over to BBC World at close down (as they now do with News24) to continue coverage of Princess Diana's death. This can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qajFpzDdeJg

Should either the 'Distribution' and/or 'BBC World programming in the United Kingdom' sections be changed to reflect this? Does anyone know if BBC1 would normally hand-over to BBC World prior to the introduction of News24 for special bulletins? I'll it to a more experienced user to make the revisions.

Adam ctb (talk) 23:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC) (comments modified)

citation needed!!
I think I'm the first person who has added "citation needed" to their own additions. I'm not a vandel, I just forget to remeber my sources. Retro Agnostic (talk) 17:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Fictional flags? Real flags? Idents?
What on earth does this mean? ("Various fictional flags with some real were used. The idents were computer generated and developed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency.") Someone please translate it into English!

Okay, I can guess what an ident is, but this is an encyclopedia -- I shouldn't have to guess. And I really haven't the slightest idea what fictional flags are. Phoogenb (talk) 10:36, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Some of the flags where fictional; (Wiktionary: Invented, as opposed to real.) --  [[ axg  ⁞⁞  talk   ]] 11:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Availability section's BBC America info outdated
In the availability section, the info mentioning BBC America canceling it's simulcast of BBC World News is it out date. While there was a brief period of time when they stopped broadcasting BBC World News between 6-9am Easter/3-6am Pacific, it's is currantly back on the air, at least on weekdays. It currently can be seen between 1-5am Pacific on the West Coast so it has obviously not been canceled. --Cab88 (talk) 05:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Livestation streaming in the USA
The article states that the channel cannot be watched via Livestation in the United States. While that was true at one time, that has apparently changed, as I can now watch the channel at my current location (Dallas) without a proxy via Livestation. I think the article should be updated to reflect this change. (I've already edited the "Internet access" section to reflect this.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.30.46.171 (talk) 01:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

This is not true as mentioned by livestation itself. 38.114.81.206 (talk) 21:34, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Proper citation format
I added an item about the channel now being available on Comcast channel 387 in Michigan but am not sure how to add the citation for the story that gave the information. The URL is http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/11/20/bbc-world-news-launches-on-comcast-in-michigan/ ("BBC World News launches on Comcast in Michigan), retrieved Nov. 20, 2011. Rreini (talk) 00:57, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I took care of it myself. Rreini (talk) 22:44, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I previously posted that BBC World News is being added to Comcast of the San Francisco Bay Area on channel 167. The source had been a message from Comcast pushed to the cable box. I now have a source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/13/business/media/bbc-world-news-to-be-available-through-comcast.html that indicates that BBC World News will be added throughout Comcast's service area in the near future. I was able to update the article to reflect this.

the channel BBC News is based within this studio
Does this refer to N8? What is the significance of this "basing"? Is output shared between channels? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 16:34, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

'Availability' section too detailed?
I've tagged the 'Availability' section as too detailed as I think it goes into a little too much detail on the intricacies of reception of the channel across the world. Thoughts? JDD (talk) 16:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

BBC world News Funding ?
The Wikipedia article claims without any source: "Unlike the BBC's domestic channels, BBC World News is not funded by a licence fee. Instead, it is funded commercially by advertising. "

But according to to the BBC Wikipedia General post : "Outside the UK, the BBC World Service has provided services by direct broadcasting and re-transmission contracts by sound radio since the inauguration of the BBC Empire Service in December 1932, and more recently by television and online. Though sharing some of the facilities of the domestic services, particularly for news and current affairs output, the World Service has a separate Managing Director, and its operating costs have historically been funded mainly by direct grants from the British government. These grants were determined independently of the domestic licence fee and were usually awarded from the budget of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. As such, the BBC's international content has traditionally represented – at least in part – an effective foreign policy tool of the British Government. " And "BBC News is the largest broadcast news gathering operation in the world,[72] providing services to BBC domestic radio as well as television networks such as the BBC News, BBC Parliament and BBC World News."

So which is it ? Ron — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.30.95 (talk) 06:05, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * "BBC World News is owned and operated by BBC Global News Ltd, a member of the BBC's commercial group of companies and is funded by subscription and advertising revenues." Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-radio-and-tv-12957296


 * JDD (talk) 16:06, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2016
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 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a change.

Previous presenters
Does anyne know any updated info regarding Tim Sebastian or Darshinee Davis? It will be nice to mention them and the people who left for Al-Jazeera or CNN International. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.155.63.6 (talk • contribs).

Both still work for the BBC.

Poor and inappropriate writing

 * "India Business Report will provide an indispensable guide to the big stories to watch out for in the week ahead."


 * "World News Today – The news programme for audiences who want more depth to their daily coverage. "


 * "India Business Report will provide an indispensable guide to the big stories to watch out for in the week ahead."


 * "Since its inception, and more so since its extensive association with the BBC News channel, the countdown to the hourly news bulletin has been a feature of the channel's presentation, accompanied by music composed by David Lowe."


 * "In most of the world, it is carried on nearly all satellite and cable platforms."


 * "The channel is not officially available as a stand-alone, full-time channel in the United Kingdom, on the grounds that it carries and is funded by advertising (BBC's domestic channels are funded by a television licence fee which households and establishments that want to watch television programmes as they are being broadcast must pay), although it can be easily received due to its 'free-to-air' status on many European satellite systems, including Astra and Hotbird. " --> 73 words!


 * "Travellers on the Heathrow Express rail service from London Paddington to London Heathrow Airport are also treated to a specially-recorded BBC World News bulletin—introduced with a namecheck of "Welcome to BBC World News onboard the Heathrow Express"—during the fifteen minute journey. "

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Well, I saw this programe on BBC news channal IN THE UK
Well, this is MISLEADING article, since it is on the BBC news channel (UK) after 9.00 PM (GMT/BST) so can i fix this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.144.69.211 (talk) 08:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

New logo
A new logo for BBC World News has been introduced on 15 July at 12:00 BST to accommodate for a new branding using the BBC Reith font. The article currently still uses the old 2008 logo, it should be updated with the new Reith logo as is the case with the "BBC News" article. --196.65.243.109 (talk) 17:29, 18 July 2019 (UTC)