Talk:BMW 507

1960 production?
507 production continued into into 1960; I have personally seen one of the 1960 cars. Please doublecheck any information gleaned from any Standard Catalogue; they are notoriously full of errors, especially the Imported Cars volume. Also, Albrecht Goertz was not a count, or Graf; he called hinself "The Count," but that didn't make him one. —Preceding Signatures comment added by Proscriptus (talk • contribs) 18:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Pardon my asking, but are you a troll or what? First, a son of Graf Rudolf Johann von Schlitz gen. von Görtz should certainly qualify as a Count (Zeppo ?), and second, according to the generally reliable source quoted 507 production ended in March of 1959 - this may be wrong, of course, but replacing a written source with something you report to have seen or heard is certainly not a viable alternative. I think I don´t like what you`re doing to this article right now, and I`m more or less convinced that you´re trying to destroy it with pseudo-knowldege - unless you´ll add some sources yourself that back up your changes. If I´m mistaken about your intentions, take my apologies. Good day to you. --328cia (talk) 18:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * According to a further source I dug up (Georg Seeliger: BMW 503/507, Motorbuch Verlag, Stuttgart 1993), I can confirm the Waldorf Astoria presentation. The same source lists year-by-year production figures: 1955:3; 1956: 13; 1957: 91; 1958: 98; 1959: 48; 1960: 0 (although four registrations are listed for 1960; on page 138 you can read (my translation):


 * "Production of the BMW 507 ended after a total of 209 Series II cars. 63 of these were built in 1957, 98 in 1958 and 48 in 1959. In the same years, a total of 41 Roadsters were registrated in Germany. Later build years (1960 or even 1961) refer exclusively to the date of first registration; not one 507 was built after December, of 1959. Car No. 254, the car with the highest official number, was finished on August 14, 1959. Three more cars, that had been worked upon for months, left the factory at a still later date: No. 70.236 on December 29, 1959 and before that No. 70.242 on November 2 and 70.244 on November 4."


 * There you go. As for Zeppo: Couldn´t find a single reference on the internet.


 * --328cia (talk) 19:24, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * BMW itself says so; see the link to the BMW Archive I´ve added in the text. --328cia (talk) 20:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

All information came from a primary source, in this case the owner of one of the two 1960 BMW 507s, and close personal friend of Goertz, which I photographed, drove, researched and wrote about, who also owns the single most complete collection of original 507 materials in the world, including the BMW archives. When the article's published--and it's sitting in an editor's hands right now--then I'll cite my own work.

There's no dispute among anyone who writes about or researches old cars about the accuracy of Standard Catalogs. They're as full of holes as Ron Paul's economic policy. The rule of thumb is, if it's in there, it's wrong.


 * This is nothing but your opinion and hearsay. You still owe the community something substantial to back up your claims. --328cia (talk) 07:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Right Hand Drive?
Were there any right hand drive models? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.33.91 (talk) 22:41, 24 December 2014 (UTC)