Talk:BMW Motorrad/Archive 2

BMW Motorrad is NOT a Subsiduary
Despite efforts of some editors to "create" facts the BMW Group has stated that BMW Motorrad is not a subsiduary. Any doubters should contact the BMW Group by e-mail and stop disruptive and damaging edits. M-72 (talk) 13:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment taken. Try not to vandalize the page just because you see something wrong with it. How about looking into how the fact template is used. Roguegeek (talk) 15:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

This article is a stub that properly belongs under the main BMW article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.168.116 (talk) 06:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * No it doesn't. BMW Motorrad is a separate division of BMW, producing distinct products and so it merits a separate article. --TimTay (talk) 08:54, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Having said that, I cannot see any guidelines at WP:COMPANIES about whether divisions of companies merit articles in their own right so I have requested advice - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Companies --TimTay (talk) 14:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * While Husqvarna merits a separate article, why does BMW Motorcycle? BMW Motorrad remains the German translation of BMW Motorcycles. Do you have any proof that BMW wants this differentiation? Or do you choose to speak for the company? BMW Motorrad is still not a subsiduary! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.116.112 (talk) 12:09, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Nobody is saying it is a subsidiary, it is a division. But BMW itself does make a clear distinction of the motorcycle business and uses the BMW Motorrad name internationally, not just in Germany e.g. this press release], which uses the BMW Motorrad UK name throughout; or this speech by Hendrik von Kuenheim, the President / General Director of BMW Motorrad given in April 2008. --TimTay (talk) 12:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I have now changed the infobox to BRAND from COMPANY to reflect the article for another BMW brand Mini. Personally I think it works quite well, but would be interested to see what others think and whether this satisfies M-72 and the Australian IP editor who has commented both here an in the Wikiproject Companies discussion. --TimTay (talk) 12:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

TT
Stanley Woods gave the first victory for a non-English manufacturer at the TT Races to Moto Guzzi. This accolade does NOT belong to BMW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.231.70.214 (talk) 21:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Nicely spotted. --Biker Biker (talk) 21:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Enclosed Body
In my commutes, I occasionally see men in business suits riding big BMWs to work. Since this is apparently a fair-weather thing, has BMW ever considered making a bike with an enclosed body and more of the amenities of an automobile? Virgil H. Soule (talk) 18:38, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * BMW C1 --Dbratland (talk) 19:46, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Sales
BMW Motorrad Sales: 2009 87,306 units BMW Motorrad Sales: 2010 98,047 units source: http://bmwmcmag.com/2011/03/bmw-group-posts-record-earnings-for-2010/ Krontach (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:50, 21 May 2011 (UTC).

'WikiProject: BMW Motorcycle' Proposal
This new WikiProject would have the primary aim of creating and developing a page for each model (both old and new) of BMW motorcycle produced in the company's history. This would enable a highly valuable resource to be for both enthusiasts and restorers such as myself to be created, where extensive information about specifcations, development, modifications and the history behind could be found. Not only this, but it would encourage motorcycle enthusiasts, who would not normally have used Wikipedia, to both use its resources and to contribute to the project's pages, becoming part of the motorcycle fraternity which would be the driving force behind this community. Once this task has been completed of English Wikipedia, I, with help of other editors and members of the project, would like to then translate the pages into other languages (particularly German, in order to make the resources available in Germany, where many BMW enthusiasts and restorers are concentrated), and so contribute to the wider Wikipedia group. The WikiProject, would also contribute large numbers of pictures to Wikimedia, as part of its galleries.

In order to promote the group and encourage the growth of the articles in our scope, the WikiProject is not only being promoted to present editors who are currently active editing articles on BMW itself and motorcycles in general, but also notify groups such as the Vintage Motor Cycle Club and the BMW Club in the U.K., which would encourage members (20,000+) to contribute some of the extensive knowledge of the topic which is demonstrated by members of these clubs. Members of the WikiProject who are active in clubs outside of the U.K., would also be encouraged to promote the Project to their respective society, making the WikiProject multinational. Current, more experienced editors, would then help the 'new boys' to use Wikipedia and share their knowledge, which has often been built up during the course of a lifetime of passion for BMW motorcycles. This would enable us, together, to produce a resource which will help generations long into the future and help preserve and catalogue BMW's legacy in the motorcycle industry.

Currently, there are no such WikiProjects which would be dedicated solely to the BMW motorcycles (not even BMW itself) and the development of pages on each individual model, in opposed to the current situation where some models are briefly referred on a BMW related page. This WikiProject would allow this community of people who are highly knowledgeable about this specific topic to develop articles in extreme depth, something not possible with larger groups, which could then be published on the world wide web, available gratis, as with all Wikipedia articles, to the public.

If successful, the idea could serve as a blueprint and be replicated for other motorcycle manufacturers.

Please visit the project proposal page, in order to see more details of the project and to join. Any questions or queries can be posted either on the proposal page, or I can be contacted directly on my talk page.

Many thanks and any help from fellow enthusiasts on this project, would be greatly appreciated.

DAFMM (talk) 15:35, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Book reference
The book "BMW Motorrad" is an overview of the evolution of the brand. It features many black-and-white and color illustrations, with extensive texts explaining how technology, materials, and sport competitions influenced the development of BMW motorcycles since its founding. According to the publisher's website, it's due to publish in July 2013. The volume apparently also contains some essays on the future development of BMW motorcycles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.117.236.97 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 12 May 2013


 * Title is 90 Years BMW Motorrad. ISBN 978-3-8327-9714-0. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 03:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Call me a skeptic but teNeues publishes commercial stuff for BMW. The breathless "legend among motorcycles" copy looks dubious. I guess we'll have to wait and see what this source offers. -- Brianhe (talk) 04:28, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

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