Talk:B (New York City Subway service)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Truflip99 (talk · contribs) 23:36, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for this. I appreciate it. AmericanAir88(talk) 13:08, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

From my first quick read-through, too many sentences start with "On ..." Let's switch it up a bit/give it more flow. --Truflip99 (talk) 23:36, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Lead
 * 2¶, clarify: "The B operates weekdays only except late nights..." (not sure if that's saying it runs late nights on all days of the week)
 * 2¶: "During rush hours, service extends beyond..." (for continuity)

History
 * 1¶: "The designation B was originally intended for express trains originating from the Washington Heights..."

Chrsytie Street
 * 1¶: "This service was initially to have been signed BT but was simply signed B instead." - Any particular reason for this? With source.
 * I could not find any source or information regarding this statement. I have removed it. AmericanAir88(talk) 02:40, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


 * 1¶: "...during late night hours and Sundays B service did not operate, and TT shuttles..." - omit comma
 * 1¶: " Starting on July 1, 1968, the B was rerouted..."
 * 1¶: The West End Line shuttles were also made part of the B route.
 * 2¶: "B service began running between 57th Street and Coney Island during all times on August 30, 1976, while alternate B trains commenced operating between 168th Street and Coney Island during rush hours."

Manhattan Bridge reconstruction
 * 1¶, move this sentence up to 4th in order: The closure of the Bridge's north side tracks essentially caused the return of pre-November 1967 service patterns, before the opening of the Chrystie Street Connection: The orange B more-or-less replicated the former BB service, and the yellow B imitated the old T service.
 * 1¶: The reconstruction of the Manhattan Bridge between 1986 and 2004 affected B service as the bridge's (unless locals keep this capitalized) north side tracks, which led to the Sixth Avenue Line, were closed multiple times.
 * 1¶: These closures severed the connection between the northern and southern portions of the route, and as a result, the B was split into two different services on April 13, 1986.
 * 1¶: The northern B service ran via Sixth Avenue, using an orange bullet, between 34th Street-Herald Square and 168th Street during rush hours only, replicating the service pattern used by the line prior to the opening of the Chrystie Street Connection.
 * 1¶: Beginning on May 24, 1987, evening and weekend Broadway Line B service was cut back from Queensboro Plaza to 57th Street–Seventh Avenue.
 * 2¶: B service operated to 57th Street during weekends and N service was increased to replace B service to Ditmars Boulevard.
 * 3¶: Beginning September 30, 1990, evening...
 * 4¶: The north side of the Manhattan Bridge closed on middays and weekends from April 30, 1995 until the following November, during which B trains...
 * 6¶: The B was subsequently routed onto the...
 * 7¶: "It now ran along Central Park West to 145th Street (Bedford Park Boulevard during rush hours) at all times except late nights." - Consider re-writing this. The statement in parenthesis is a little vague, as it doesn't say where Bedford Park is in the sequence.
 * 8¶: However, This time, the southern half of the route, which runs on the Broadway Line, was named the W.

Refs Hey man, I need a second opinion regarding the use of Flickr files as refs. Could you please advise? --Truflip99 (talk) 14:43, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * While these signs could be considered decent sources, they are formatted wrong (along with the SubwayNut references). Flickr should be listed under via or omitted entirely. Looking at the other sources, I also see a few unreliable fanwebsites, like EricTB.info and JoeKorner. Those absolutely need to be replaced. The book and newspaper sources also need page numbers.  Sounder Bruce  23:35, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I working on the refs per your request. What seems to be the problem with Joe Korner? His refs are on plenty of GA's such as 63rd Street Lines. Ref 8 also is an image Joe Korner uploaded via the NYTA. AmericanAir88(talk) 00:16, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Joe Korner does not seem to meet the criteria at WP:SPS, as his name does not garner any hits from a reliable and reputable secondary source. If his name is so far spread around the existing GAs, I think it might be time to reassess those reviews, as that is an alarming oversight.  Sounder Bruce  02:59, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree. It seems that after my research, he could not be found on a broad scale. Thank you for this. I have fixed your other citation issues as well. �
 * are you still addressing the refs? --Truflip99 (talk) 00:07, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * 90% done. I am trying to find a replacement for the Joe Corner refs. Unless you are ready to move on. AmericanAir88(talk) 01:52, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * What is the issue with the Flickr files? These are official NYCTA documents that indicate changes in service. The formatting has been changed. Why would these need to be replaced?--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , I think the issue is that it is supposed to say "via Flickr" in the citation, so like . The images themselves are fine. Same with Joe Korman, it should be "via JoeKorNer.com" . As for the other articles being discussed which use Korman's webpages, they are simply scans of official documents for the most part, so should be fine. epicgenius (talk) 18:36, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Section break

 * With the "Via" added and the cites fixed up. It is safe to say that the citation issue is <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>)  01:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * please be sure to address those missing parameters. I will proceed with final touches. --Truflip99 (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Parameters have been fixed or replaced. Thank you. <b style="color: blue">AmericanAir88</b>(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 00:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Passed. After making my own ce edits, I will pass this now, but please add a ref for the station list. --Truflip99 (talk) 14:21, 3 April 2019 (UTC)