Talk:Babar the Elephant/Archive 1

Vandalism
This site has obviously been vandalized and needs to be fixed by someone with knowledge on the subject. I can roll it back, but I don't know what is true and what is not. 71.55.210.57 14:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation
I have a 1950's record where the name is pronounced Bah-bar. What are the sources for the Buh-bar pronounciation? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stereo (talk • contribs).

Ba as in bat or Bar as in Bar?

I recently spoke to Professor James Bowen, a specialist in the pronunciation of French literary characters, who assured me that the correct pronunication is Bar as in Bar followed by Bar as in Bar as in Bar. So Bar-Bar.

This is a common misconception and is down to a minor speech impediment which affects Prof. James Bowen.

I've just got off the phone to Prof. Bowen's office - unfortunately he wasn't available as he's attending a conference in Marseille on 'The Philosophical Meanings of Celesteville'. However, I spoke to his assistant Anthony Green who assured me that whilst a few radical dissenters continue to pronounce it as Bah-bar, the widely held view amongst Babar academics is that the correct pronounciation is Bar-bar.


 * When the article says how "Babar" is pronounced, does it mean the most common English-language approximation of the French pronunciation? The IPA transcription for the French pronunciation would be /babaʁ/ (or /baˈbaʁ/ if you mark phonemic stress, which doesn't exist in French). Mats (talk) 08:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I am concerned with the statement that "Barbar" is the name of the first Mughal emperor of India. This emperor's name is most commonly spelled Babur, and pronounced Bah-bor. This may have been the source for the original name, but since the it is pronounced differently I see no reason to believe it without some kind of citation.Malignon (talk) 23:08, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Remake?
There is a new version in the works according to IMDB however I am unable to find any other information anywhere else. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0798694/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.43.160.77 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 4 August 2006 24.43.160.77 (UTC)

Offensive
How can something be both "delightful" and "offensive" at the same time? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.57.225.195 (talk • contribs).

I mainly remember the Canadian animated series. Most of the colonialist aspects were removed from that and it was still a great story. As the original Babar stories were written in the 1930's they will of coarse contain colonial aspects. Remember that the culture of "empire" was still strong in England and France still owned most of its colonies. Although the land grab in Africa was long over there was still a perceived need to "tame" the wild continent. These are mostly just historic artifacts from the time that it was written. It is quite likely that similar criticisms will be applied to current works (such as Harry Potter and Family Guy) in eighty years. The same arguments go for other historic cultural icons such as Tintin. kc4 - the Server Monkey Enforcer 08:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Copied?
How come this is exactly the same as the article for Babar on Answers.com? User:Reagar

Because most of the articles on Answers.com are from wikipedia.71.55.210.57 14:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Pompadour
As long as I remember, Pompadour isn't in the books. He was created for the cartoon series as a comic relief character, so his foolishness can contrast the wisdom of Cornelius. - 80.98.249.157 (talk) 17:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Added a the George Saunders mention. As a MacArthur winner, he seems a significant enough author to include. Babar is also essential to the story-- Saunders clearly knows him well. 06:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)Tom

External link to digital facsimile of de Brunhoff's maquette
Please consider adding the following external link to this page:

http://www.themorgan.org/collections/swf/exhibOnline.asp?id=900 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morganlibrary (talk • contribs) 02:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Live Action TV series
There’s no mention of the live action, actors in masks and suits, version, which was called “Les Aventures de Babar”. Made for French TV, I think, but shown in the UK as well (on the BBC in the pre-news five minute slot used for Magic Roundabout, Noggin the Nog, Captain Pugwash, etc., and on ITV in their mid-day slot, where they would show Rupert the Bear, Jamie and the Magic Torch, and suchlike. Don’t know anything more about it, but probably worth some input from a Babar fan? Jock123 (talk) 09:49, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

writing style
Many editions of Babar books, including the original story, have text "printed" in handwritten script. Also, most Babar stories are narrated in the present tense. Should these two unusual styles be noted or explained?108.225.17.141 (talk) 17:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Missing book
Babar and the Doctor, 1972 --98.252.228.87 (talk) 03:24, 4 February 2015 (UTC)