Talk:Babe Ruth's called shot

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Grammatical correction
Corrected a small grammatical error in the section "The Called Shot." Originally read, "Root missed with the next two pitchers," in which the context obviously points to the intention of the word "pitches". - rjfleming84, Thursday, October 6, 2005, 21:10 PM EST

Don't be too sure of that. Those guys did love their beer. d;) Wahkeenah 01:17, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

merge request

 * Oppose It is famous in it's own right, like The Catch, and the Shot Heard 'Round the World, and should have its own article. Much have been written about these 3 famous plays, and are more notable than many other articles in wikipedia --rogerd 04:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right. The main thing the average fan knows about the 1932 Series is this one play. Wahkeenah 13:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * removed merge template from both articles RainbowCrane 14:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I found a video that has Babe Ruth explaining that he called the shot!!
One of the disputes is if Babe Ruth pointed to the field. And from the 16 MM film it seems like he might not have pointed to the field. But in a short film that I found on you tube, the Babe himself, in a good quality film, tells that he was telling the people in the dugout that he would hit a home run. So he didnt point maybe, maybe, but he might have called the shot still. And I think that video should be used here as a link. I found it on you tube. Here is the link then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLhV72is82A&feature=related 71.105.87.54 (talk) 05:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I've seen portions of that short film before, particularly the part where he's in the radio studio conducting the song. The film shows Ruth's natural flair for acting, or at least being comfortable in front of the camera. The narration of the 1932 homer has appeared in various places, including actual film footage of the home run. The clips shown in this film were partly recreations and partly stock footage of Ruth; they were not not the actual 1932 homer. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 05:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey thank's for allowing the link and edit that I put then. If it's ok I moved the edit a little higher in the article and made some minor edits. And well I think most of what I edited had to do with what I added so the. 71.105.87.54 (talk) 20:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I was trying to tell you here, in a gentle way, that the quote is just part of a script in a short (fictional) film and that what you wrote is speculation and is really not appropriate. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 23:13, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


 * So if its a script or not, does it make a difference? I mean its still the Babe himself telling what happened. I mean if its a script, he wo uld have to agree to what he was going to say. If they asked him to say Aliens called the shot i dont know if he would agree to the script. But maybe they asked him to just tell what happened. Script or not, its still him descrging what happened. Maybe its true. Maybe its not. Maybe its made up. Maybe its partly true. BUt its still significant isnt it? I mean I understand if its speculation. But their are other things in this article that could be speculation cus their not all sourced. I mean this article gives both sides of the story and has some people wonder if its true or not. So this video might give people a better idea or wonder then? Are you saying you dont want the youtube link thier? 71.105.87.54 (talk) 20:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * It's Ruth (or the scriptwriter) spinning a fanciful tale. I've seen Ruth quoted as saying that only a fool would actually stand there at home plate and predict a home run. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 23:26, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment though this is now a five year old thread - We can use Ruth's quotes as long as we make it clear it's Ruth being quoted and the context. The factual part will be that Ruth is saying after the fact "I called the shot" or "only a fool would actually stand there at home plate and predict a home run". In either case, the quotes can be in the article as long they are well sourced and via a WP:RS. By 1948, when Ruth wrote his biography with Bob Considine, he was sticking to the "I called the shot" version of the event. --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 21:30, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

He was awesome!?!!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.22.208.231 (talk) 16:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

The external links were broken. The external link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLhV72is82A&feature=related) that started this post is a private video, and the other one (http://chicagosidesports.com/making-a-point-did-babe-ruth-call-his-shot/) is to a suspended account, so I added the link to the official MLB.com link, which does work. It has the advantage of quotes, including Ruth himself.Catrachos Catrachos (talk) 15:27, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Excised paragraph
''While passing Gehrig on his way back to the Yankees dugout, Ruth, who was feuding with Gehrig at the time, challenged him to "hit one of the those." Gehrig replied "No problem" and proceeded to hit a home run himself. In a way, Gehrig called his shot too, just not in the same manner as Ruth.''

Removed this as it looks like it was stuck on with insufficient thought. It's out of order in the chronology, sounds fanciful, and there is no citation. Do what you will with it. Stevage 00:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Is there another film of Ruth pointing?
Several decades ago, probably in the 1960s, I remember seeing an issue of the Sporting News which had a photograph, probably a still from a film, showing Ruth pointing. The vantage point was from the stands behind home plate and I think he was pointing in the direction of the pitcher's mound and center field. It's the same gesture as in the photo in the Wikipedia article but from a different angle. I have not been able to find a reference to this on the Internet but perhaps some researcher can find it in old issues of the Sporting News. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.73.31.50 (talk) 20:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

To my mind the film supports it, and the testimony of Pat Pieper seals it. He called the shot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.211.203 (talk) 17:29, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you mean this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkEX0eb2eBo?t=96 If so, note that the blurry figure that's supposed to be Ruth is raising both hands forming a Y shape. Maikel (talk) 12:07, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Added Citations
Added two citations to prove that Babe Ruth called the shot, and cited them in the article. Cgord14 (talk) 01:37, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Which inning?
The lede says "Babe Ruth's called shot was the home run hit by Babe Ruth of the New York Yankees in the fifth inning of Game 3 of the 1932 World Series..." but the article (The Facts and the Dispute) says "With the score tied 4-4 in the 9th inning of game three, he took strike one from Root." So, which inning was it? SlowJog (talk) 00:03, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Lingo
Some questions on the term "called shot" or "to call a shot":
 * In baseball, is a ball that's been hit by the batter generally called a "shot"?
 * What exactly does "called" mean in baseball context, and especially in this context? "Predicted"? Merriam-Webster also gives the baseball-specific meanings of "to halt (something, such as a baseball game) because of unsuitable conditions" and "to rule on the status of (a pitched ball, a player's action, etc.)"?
 * Thence, is to "call a shot" really a baseball-specific term? Did it come out of the phrase of speech "to call the shots" or out of another context?

Thanks, Maikel (talk) 16:00, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, in "The called shot particularly irked Root. He [...] would be forever remembered as the pitcher who gave up the "called shot"". What is meant by giving up? Thank you, Maikel (talk) 08:49, 4 December 2019 (UTC)