Talk:Babrak Karmal/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Pyrotec (talk · contribs) 11:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I will review. Pyrotec (talk) 11:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Initial comments
After an initial reading, this article appears to be at or about GA-level based on its scope, references and citations. I'm now working my way through the article, starting at Early life and career, working my way to the end and then going back to do the Lead. This should take most of today. At this stage I will be highlighting mostly "problems", if any. Pyrotec (talk) 11:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Early life and career -
 * ✅ Pyrotec (talk) - There seems to be some inconsistency over his last name. In the first (unnamed) subsection, he is called "Sultan Hashem" son of "Muhammad Hussein Hashem"; it then states in the same place that "Sultan Hussein, is a common Indian Muslim name". Also, in the same paragraph, his brother is named as "Mahmud Baryalay". In the following subsection, Communist politics, it states: ...changed his name from Sultan Hussein to Babrak Karmal".
 * Partially done, I can't do anything with his name being a common Indian name or that is brothers name is "Mahmud Baryalay"; Its according to the sources, and thats the only thing I can say on that subject. --TIAYN (talk) 09:18, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Communist politics -
 * ✅ Pyrotec (talk) - Done It's not clear what ".... No Khalqists were elected to the lower house of parliament; albeit, Amin was 50 votes short." is saying. It's presumably stating that Amin was only 50 votes short of a draw (or a win)?
 * Sorry, I can't see any change here. Pyrotec (talk) 19:57, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Done Refs 16 & 17 (also ref 21 ) are listed as Gladstone, Cary (2001). Afghanistan Revisited, but that is the title of the book and the author of the book. The references come from Chapter 5, whose title is Afghanistan: a country study and the editors are Blood, Baxter, Dupree, Gouttierre & Newell. (see cite book).
 * I can't see any change here, its still quoting Gladstone: Blood, Baxter, Dupree, Gouttierre & Newell are not mentioned. Pyrotec (talk) 20:00, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What I was suggesting was this:

but since the references are verifiable I'll let these go. Pyrotec (talk) 10:25, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * But I can't do that anylonger, all the references are referenced in SFN template format, which makes that impossible. --TIAYN (talk) 10:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The Daoud era -
 * Looks OK.


 * Taraki–Amin rule -
 * ✅ Pyrotec (talk) - Done There is a clarification needed tag in the first paragraph.
 * ✅ Pyrotec (talk) - Done The third paragraph contains a direct quotation ""Today the torture machine of Amin has been smashed, his accomplices – the primitive executioners, usurpers and murderers of tens of thousand of our fellow countrymen – fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, sons and daughters, children and old people ..." which is unreferenced.


 * Presidency -
 * Domestic policies-
 * Done Refs 40, 41, 42, 43 & 46 are listed as Weiner, Myron; Banuazizi, Ali (1994). The Politics of Social Transformation in Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan, but that is the title of the book. The pages cited appear to be from Chapter 1: The Ephemeral Elite: The failure of Socialist Afghanistan, whose author is Anthony Arnold. (see cite book).
 * See comments above about Refs 16 & 17. Pyrotec (talk) 10:44, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Otherwise, looks OK.

...stopping for now. To be continued. Pyrotec (talk) 17:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Foreign policy -
 * Done Refs 59, 60 & 61 are listed as Leird, Robbin; Hoffmann, Erik (1986). Soviet foreign policy In a Changing World, but that is the title of the book. The pages cited appear to be from Chapter 18: The Soviet - Afghan War: the first four years, whose author is Jospeh J. Collins. (see cite book).
 * See comments above about Refs 16 & 17. Pyrotec (talk) 10:44, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Otherwise, looks OK.


 * Fall from power and succession -
 * Looks OK.


 * Later life and death -
 * Looks OK.


 * WP:Lead -
 * Looks OK.

At this point, I'm putting the review On Hold. The corrective actions appear to be relatively minor. Pyrotec (talk) 18:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm finished. --TIAYN (talk) 12:30, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I must have edited out my changes somehow... Wow, ok --TIAYN (talk) 20:43, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Overall summary
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria An informative article.
 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * Well referenced.
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * Well cited and referenced.
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * All images, except File:Babrak Karmal afghan statesman.JPG which has been tagged for speedy deletion on 23 July 2012, are compliant
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * All images, except File:Babrak Karmal afghan statesman.JPG which has been tagged for speedy deletion on 23 July 2012, are compliant
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:

This is an informative and well referenced article, so I'm awarding it GA status. Congratulations on getting this article thorough GA. Please Note; there is one image in the information box that is tagged for speedy deletion, but the loss of this image (if it occurs) will not substantially impact on the article. Pyrotec (talk) 10:44, 26 July 2012 (UTC)