Talk:Bachelor's degree/Archive 2012

Germany
Germany has 180 (3 years), 210 (3.5 years) or 240 ECTS point (4 years) Bachelor and 60 (1 year), 90 (1.5 years) and 120 ECTS point (2 years) Master degrees. Bachelor + Master requires at least 300 ECTS points so the more credits you had to obtain for your Bachelor degree, the less you have to obtain for your Master. This is the corresponding German law, which basically states that the regular duration of studies for the Bachelor is 3 to 4 years time for regular study. So in practice, the Bachelor is the successor of the Diplom FH. In particular, the university of applied sciences (formerly "FH" for "Fachhochschule", now only "Hochschule") where I am studying didn't strip down their curriculum at all as the system was changed from the traditional to the new degrees. Anyhow, I'd like to have a "non German" decide whether and how this should be corrected in the article, as I don't want to introduce "German POV" bias into this English-language (and therefore more internationally focused) article. Thanks. 91.61.247.89 (talk) 13:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello, I'm also from Germany and studied at a "Hochschule" formerly known as "Fachhoschule". I have the Bachelor of Science B.Sc. degree.
 * I want to punctuate what the previous poster said, that in Germany, the "Bachelor" is the successor of the "Diplom (FH)", in case of B.Sc. or B.Eng. the successor of the "Diplom Ingenieur (FH)"
 * I can commit that the curriculum was just cut down from 4 years ("Diplom Ingenieur(FH)") down to 3 years for Bachelor. In effect, same curriculum and content but in 3 years.
 * Now, at least at the "Hochschule" where I studied, they rearranged the curriculum (once more *lol*) up to 3.5 years.
 * As the previous poster said, he would like to have a "non german" point of view, i would also be glad to get some response in this case. (Especially also because in Germany you often hear from People who have the "Diplom (univ./FH)" "Oh, the Bachelor is just the "Vordiplom" "
 * And also Universities and not only "Fachhochschulen" are more and more introducing the Bachelor and replacing the Diplom.


 * "Bachelor o.d." I never heard this designation.


 * This section has to be overworked.


 * — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.105.115.227 (talk) 00:47, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Honors in Brazil
The article says that "in Brazil, students do not receive special recognition for good grades or performance", but from personal experience, the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro (UFRJ) uses the "summa/magna/cum laude" system for undergraduate students who graduate with high (over 80%) total grades. According to the Wikipedia article in Portuguese, ITA (the Technological Institute of Aeronautics) also uses the same system, but I don't know if it's only for graduates or for undergraduates as well. Honor programs, however, are unheard of. And as far as I know, these honors have no practical effect here either - they just make your diploma look prettier, or something. Prudencechan (talk) 17:39, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Denmark
I have a problem with this sentence: "However, both in the business and the academic world in Denmark, the bachelor's degree is still considered to be "the first half" of a master 's (candidatus). It is not considered a degree in its own right, despite the politicians' best attempts to make it more accepted." Especially the last part is not correct. A danish Bachelor's degree is in fact a degree in its own right and to say that it is not considered as one would not be NPV in my opinion. It is correct however that many students view the Bachelor's degree as a step on the path towards a masters degree. --Andersthorborg (talk) 12:31, 1 November 2012 (UTC)