Talk:Bachelor griller

Discussion regarding article's expansion

 * See User talk:Northamerica1000 - Bachelor Griller. NorthAmerica1000 14:04, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Fry vs. pan-cook (what?)
Being a well-educated American who has never in my nearly five decades on this earth heard the verb "pan-cook," I am deleting the purported translation of "fry." In fact, the verb we use when cooking something in a pan is usually "fry," although one does encounter "sauté" fairly frequently. Fried egg, anyone? 98.14.225.160 (talk) 03:37, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep that was over-egging the pudding with the American translations but because this is very much a British thing I kinda translated unnecessarily. Thanks for taking em out. Si Trew (talk) 21:58, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

I believe it is a trademark
User:SimonTrew has repeatedly edited the article to make it sound as though Bachelor Griller is not a trademark - even removing the capital letters from it, to make it look generic. Yet there is no source for the claim in the article that it has never been a trademark; and a search of Google Books finds only capitalised uses, with e.g. Orwell writing "I have bought a small gas-stove called a Bachelor Griller". So it really does sound like a trademark. Equinox (talk) 21:35, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

I have tried repeatedly to find that it is a trademark and I don't think it is. My one that is still going and on the pic deliberately dirty is made by Orion which I think is made in the UK but bought in Hungary from um I think well one of the big stores in Hungary, I don't think OBI which we do not have at EN:WP but that is like the Hungarian eqivalent of B&Q. I did try to reliably source this but I think Orion is just a trading name for a lot of products shipped around the EU so that didn't help much. THe repeated edits are because I tend to edit in small batches and not all at once – as I say, the pics on the article were added by another working together and I believe User:Champion is constantly bugging me (joking) over at WP:RFD to ask where he can get one. So this is not WP:MADEUP or anything it is just really hard reliably to source. As you see if you bothered to look down, George Orwell used one in 1936 (obviously that would be more gas than electric). What's the problem Equinox? If you believe it is a trademark I think it is for you to show RS that it is a trademark, otherwise take to CSD as WP:MADEUP. But I think others would disagree with you when it has RS and so on. My particular one we changed the pic cos I had a deliberately dirty one, I think, I check. Si Trew (talk) 21:55, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm a a liar, the pic is of my own "bachelor griller" made by Orion and the pic is attributed to me. I was thinking of something else when I said the dutch with it being open and closed where we collaborated as a good Wikipedian should, I can't think what it was now but some other cooking appliance. I still have that Bachelor griller but I do not believe it is a trademark. I checked before I made the article. Si Trew (talk) 22:01, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I remember that was the pick of my tantalus (cabinet) the Dutch collaborators did a much better job of the pic than my one. Si Trew (talk) 06:51, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * By the way when you say "the repeated edits" I presume you are not insinuating any kind of bad faith. I am sure you are not but it could look like that. I tend to make very many small edits when I edit articles. I can't remember quite why I created this one, a long time ago, but it is because someone asked what is a bachelor griller and because I happened to have one I took the pic and made a stub that's all. Si Trew (talk) 22:05, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * they've trademarked a general category, that should be illigal! Can one trademark the word human? Yes. The law is problematic. You could say SONY Human, not human. The law doesn't protect us people.


 * I have now added proof of the trademark. The 1905 Journal of Gas Lighting, Water Supply & Sanitary Improvement (page 410) describes "illustrations of the firm's "Welcome" and "Bachelor" grillers, their "Vulcan" cooker, and an assortment of brass fittings for gas". You can find this in a Google Books search. Equinox ◑ 12:47, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Translations
Greek: κουζινάκι — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:410A:D400:C1A9:5F3:5D6F:7DE3 (talk) 01:27, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

It's a toaster oven
How is this a separate article from "toaster"? And why no mention of the common North American English name? There are probably 10x the number of such appliances over here. Lame. 76.69.87.247 (talk) 03:19, 31 October 2021 (UTC)