Talk:Bacon Explosion

Notability / recentism
The subject has a full-length article in the New York Times, and NYT article is primarily about the amount of interest generated in the topic, including secondary coverage. It neatly fits into the general notability guideline as such. Bongo matic  20:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Picture

 * http://www.bbqaddicts.com/bacon-explosion.html

Should we add one of the images from there onto this article? Gune (talk) 07:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you think a fair use rationale applies, or that this has been licensed in a way consistent with WP policy? I sent an e-mail to BBQ Addicts asking them to release one of the pix into PD or license it using CC / GFDL, but haven't heard back yet. Bongo  matic  08:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Of course I think it applies. Gune (talk) 09:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Really? What about criterion (1) of WP:FUC? Couldn't Drmies just make one and shoot it? Bongo  matic  09:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Bongo, are you crazy?? Although...5000 calories...500 grams of fat...that's not so bad...if I don't eat it with too much mayonnaise... You know what, I'll give it some thought! Drmies (talk) 14:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Has anyone ever asked thw question how many calories and grams of fat are in one serving? Sure, the whole dish has 5000 calories, but who is going to eat that?  A half-gallon of ice cream probably has about the same, but most people only eat one bowl at a time.--Dspillmann (talk) 17:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)dspillmann
 * This isn't a one per person dish? :) I wonder what sides are commonly served with an Explosion of this type? Would it pair well with vegetables? potatoes? It seems more context is needed, but perhaps more time is needed to establish servign protocols. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It's covered by no free equivalent. Gune (talk) 18:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, actually it is (the one uploaded is free use). And anyway, WP:FUC criterion number one is where "no free equivalent is available, or could be created" (emphasis added). Given the widespread availability of bacon, sausage, and BBQs / smokers, it is impossible to successfully argue that no equivalent could be created. Bongo  matic  18:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

True originators
An anonymous editor added an unreferenced claim that two specific individuals had invented the dish. I vaguely recall seeing something indicating that the idea may not have originated with the bloggers who popularized and named the dish, but can't recall the reference–anyone? Bongo matic  00:24, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, here it is, from the NYT article:
 * Some have claimed that the Bacon Explosion is derivative. A writer known as the Headless Blogger posted a similar roll of sausage and bacon in mid-December. Mr. Chronister and Mr. Day do not claim to have invented the concept.
 * Looking into it further now. Bongo  matic  00:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * And for some reason, an "anonymous" editor in what Geolocate says is Olathe, Kansas, keeps deleting this referenced section and adding multiple links to the BBQ Addicts blog. I've added a single link to the external links section as it's a legitimate site for such a link from this article but it should not be repeatedly woven into the text of the article.  - Dravecky (talk) 21:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Subjective judgments of taste
While it is true that judgments of taste are subjective, it does not follow that critical reception of things that are evaluated by reference to taste are not encyclopedic. Reviews of all sorts of topics covered in this and other encyclopedias are noted in articles. Headless Blogger's opinion, however, would appear to be a COI. If a noted food critic or chef covers this dish, his/her subjective opinion would be notable and ought to be included. Bongo matic  21:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree.  momoricks   (make my day)  22:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Bacon Explosion → Bacon explosion – Not a proper noun, should be lowercased per WP:CAPS. 81.142.107.230 (talk) 13:13, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, the reliable sources (including The New York Times) almost all capitalize Bacon Explosion in all instances. It's our article that needs copyediting, not the article title. - Dravecky (talk) 20:53, 19 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment I am not sure what to think of food names being proper nouns. There is precedent for it - look for example at these names of cocktails as proper nouns. IBA Official Cocktail  Blue Rasberry    (talk)   16:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Caps in title?
Hey, is Bacon Explosion a proper noun? It's listed as both Bacon Explosion and bacon explosion in the article and should probably be one or the other for consistency's sake. Thanks for your thoughts, Bob Amnertiopsis ∴ChatMe! 19:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, its a proper noun so has all been unified now. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

International
The claim that this is anything other than a purely American dish seems very dubious. I'm a 59 year old Brit interested in food and cooking, and I'd never heard of it before stumbling on this article. The Daily Telegraph article quoted in support of the international claim is of the "here's another crazy food that obese Americans eat" variety. I think the article needs better refs if the claim is to be sustained, and I suspect none exist. --Ef80 (talk) 18:00, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've removed it as being an unsourced statement with no really viable sources located. Hopefully this changes in the future. — Huntster (t @ c) 18:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)