Talk:Bad Girls Club/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: Titodutta (talk · contribs) 08:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I am starting review. --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 08:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I have completed reading the article. It seems to be well written article! See more comments below-Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 09:31, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Is it currently on hold? Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  23:10, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Not really, I did not get any response from any editor, so, waiting for a reply! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 23:26, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm the one who nominated it lolz. Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  13:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * will take up to two days. Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  23:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, no problem, take your time. Actually I was preparing to fix those dead refs myself (a reviewer can make minor corrections during review! Also add few (more citations) in the lead section of the article (see below "citations" section)! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 13:23, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

First look
First look assessment: ✅ Ok! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 10:11, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Citation needed

 * Lead section
 * Bad Girls Club is an American reality television series created by Jonathan Murray for the Oxygen TV channel. - the name of Jonathon Murray is mentioned in infobox and lead section. So, it needs citation!
 * ✅ Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  13:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The Bad Girls Club is broadcast in five countries.
 * ❌ Not needed, the article body itself has sources indicating that the show is broadcast in five countries. Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  13:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply: Add the name of the countries in bracket and add a citation (eg. The Bad Girls Club is broadcast in five countries Country A, Country B, Country C...) . If you tell me the show is broadcast in five countries, I'll immediately ask you in which five countries? And it is not easy to understand that you have created a section on it "International broadcast" which is actually contains the explanation/details of the sentence in lead --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 18:08, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

''I had no idea where I was and [I] had to go to the ER over night. They later discovered someone put PCP in my drink. They can't show it on the show because then that guy could sue for slander.'' --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 17:56, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Section Season 5 Quote box

Age of Christine Moon
In a recent edit an (anonymous) editor has changed the age of Christine (Moon) from 23 to 21, I am not very sure, verify this! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 17:40, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * According to this she is 21. Would you like me to cite it with the link? Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  17:45, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Review status
Does anything else need to be done/is the review complete? It started well but has stalled the past month. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:26, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Nominator told (s)he will inform me/post in this review page after doing the edits asked here. Need to contact nominator! Will do!--Tito Dutta Message 05:00, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Will do this week. Sorry for the delays :( Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  12:36, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay!--Tito Dutta Message 14:16, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I have now all remaining issues and have updated, removed vandalism and added a few more sentences to the lead (with sources). Is there anything else that needs to be done? Best,  Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  23:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Wondering about the lack of action on the nomination; it seems to have stalled again after some criteria were checked off on April 10 as having been satisfied. Are there problems in the other areas? BlueMoonset (talk) 14:46, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Will be done in next few days! -- Tito Dutta  ✉  19:13, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hope you'll be back soon to finish up! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there something holding up the final steps? How long do you think it will take to finish? BlueMoonset (talk) 18:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Not Stable?
The article has just failed the "Stable" category, and I'm at a loss to figure out why. The criteria are: "it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute." I see no evidence of a content dispute going back a month, and no edit warring. Only the usual too-frequent bad IP edits and vandalism followed by reversions that tend to hit any article involving a popular show or performer, especially those with regular editors who want the article to remain clean. Tito Dutta, could you please explain the reasoning behind your grading of this section? It would be a shame for the article to be rejected due to this one failing grade. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It can be suggest to GA editors to clarify– IP edits/vandalism. IP edit is a serious problem here. And if you see article history mainly anonymous editors are editing this article. So, naturally there is not any talk page discussion on content disputes etc, I discussed with nominator and suggested to request protection. It can be done. If you think the grade should be pass, be WP:BOLD go ahead and change the grade below!-- Tito Dutta  ✉  22:00, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Are there really serious, prolonged content disputes? I honestly don't see them. IP edits can be a problem, but if the bad ones are quickly reverted, I don't see what the problem is. I'm on a task force where we get literally dozens of questionable IP edits a week on some GA articles, but reversion is fast and painless. These IPs don't seem to persist, and if there are helpful edits mixed in among the reversions, protection can be very hard to get even if the bad edits outnumber the good three or four to one. If this turns out to be the only thing holding back approval of the GA, then I'd ask you to get a formal second opinion on the issue before failing the GA. I'm not an experienced GA reviewer, so it would be inappropriate in the extreme for me to change your grade. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:49, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it is not like that. Feel free to change the grade and add a note! I did not plan to fail the article for this reason. If you see article history– anonymous users (who are primary contributors of this article) are changing content (important information) continuously (changing age, home town of participants etc). Not all edits are being monitored. And I know I once again need to review that article for WP:OR and prose style now! I have requested an indefinite semi protection. -- Tito Dutta  ✉  08:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * And can you tell me what is happening in 6b of assessment template? Are they helping us in nomination? I can not understand properly! -- Tito Dutta  ✉  22:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks to me like a disagreement between them on images. Since you're neutral on the subject, I'd suggest you make your own review, put it in the boxes as the official reviewer, and if your conclusion is different from theirs, change the grade as necessary. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:49, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ugh, this article attracts vandalizing IPs. This article has been edit-protected countless times. But just because the IPs are vandalizing the article, doesn't mean that because of them it should not be made into a model article. Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  02:12, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Semi protection request: This is the protection request, you can add comment there (or withdraw the request if you want). -- Tito Dutta  ✉  08:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It was given a one-month protection (since last time was two weeks), with an invitation to ask for more if necessary after that expires. That should ensure stability from IP vandals. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)