Talk:Bad Guy (Billie Eilish song)

Genre classification for song
There have been multiple reverts for the genre in the infobox. Multiple editors have been involved (I am one of them). My reason for reverting was the "pop-trap" genre both nu-goth or pop-trap seem to be obscure genres with passing remarks in sources only about the release of this song. We don't even have articles for these genres yet ... I am not sure this meets the requirements stated here. I will wait for consensus. Dartslilly (talk) 12:51, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Please let the genres in place until a consensus is reached, then we can remove them if needed. Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Digging through the article history I first reverted after I noticed you edit warring over the infobox genres with this ip editor [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bad_Guy_(Billie_Eilish_song)&diff=906183337&oldid=906110076]. You reinsert it here [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bad_Guy_(Billie_Eilish_song)&diff=906775349&oldid=906775128] with edit summary "Big expansion and clean-up". We have two very short articles cited from the entertainment news with inconsistent claims of non-notable genres. The risk of damage from including poorly sourced content like this too soon is the only justification I have for this second revert, however, I will not edit war beyond this. I ask that you wait for a consensus before restoring. Dartslilly (talk) 14:43, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Maybe you can give some opinions on this? Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:43, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I would like to know the previous involvement of the pinged editors in this discussion. All has said so far is that we should leave his preferred version in the article. All we have is two contradicting sources. This is not enough, especially for the infobox. This is policy. My opinion is based on [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dartslilly&diff=906798733&oldid=906795742] but I do not want to mis-state the policy because I do not know it very well so I am ping . I am still learning and will accept his answer. Dartslilly (talk) 18:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Overall, it is considered to be under alternative/indie, pop and seasonal genre. According to the Billie Eilish's interview, she wanted to give a message that people are not in a certain way all the time. They will never catch a bad bitch telling everyone she's a bad bitch, it is on them. In order to achieve this message, her music is distinct from "classic pop" and used mixture of sounds, layers to deliver distinct vibe (nme, 2019)

Lyrics: [Verse 1] White shirt now red, my bloody nose Sleepin', you're on your tippy toes Creepin' around like no one knows Think you're so criminal Bruises on both my knees for you Don't say thank you or please I do what I want when I'm wanting to My soul? So cynical

[Chorus] So you're a tough guy Like it really rough guy Just can't get enough guy Chest always so puffed guy I'm that bad type Make your mama sad type Make your girlfriend mad tight Might seduce your dad type I'm the bad guy Duh

[Post-Chorus] I'm the bad guy

[Verse 2] I like it when you take control Even if you know that you don't Own me, I'll let you play the role I'll be your animal My mommy likes to sing along with me But she won't sing this song If she reads all the lyrics She'll pity the men I know — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scarletpark424 (talk • contribs) 09:26, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

In the interests of moving on with my life I have setup redirects for the genres and restored them to the infobox so there is no more dispute between us. I wanted to wait to create the genre articles but I guess we can do that after the genres become established? Dartslilly (talk) 19:39, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I undid this. There's no dispute :) I'm just curious to see for the other users' comments — I can wait a few more days... Cartoon network freak (talk) 19:56, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You are edit warring. I undid your edit warring. Please stop linking pop-trap to pop and trap. It is neither. I couldn't find MUSICRS to add more what it is and you have shown none but Trap (EDM) is a better link than a 1990's genre. Did you read the articles before linking them? Dartslilly (talk) 19:58, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * This is me not reacting to you yelling at me. Cartoon network freak (talk) 20:49, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

This song should not be linked to gothic rock by the "nu-goth" tag, since this song is not in any form related to gothic rock, or as far as I can tell by its sound and influences, not having anything to do with gothic rock or its related genres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.132.100.123 (talk) 10:16, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Please stick to the given reliable sources. And it's not "nu-goth", its "nu-goth pop". Cartoon network freak (talk) 13:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Rolling Stone #1
How is it possible for "Bad Guy" to have been number one on the Rolling Stone 100 if you review every single week for the chart since its inception in July 2019, it never reached the top position. On the very first chart, it was at 7, then it moved up to 6. From there, it fell to 9, jumped up to 3, dropped to 5, then 7, remained at 7, returned to 6, fell back to 9, bounced back up to 7, before falling out of the top 15 for good. I don't think the "peak position" info when the "+" sign on the RS site is clicked next to the song is an accurate indicator, especially if they are incorporating beta charts. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 23:50, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The peak used is a daily peak and not the final, as the chart is updated everyday [|WP:RSC] this is the guideline you need to use here. BTW the song is nowhere to be seen on the List of Rolling Stone Top 100 number-one songs of 2019. Thanks for pointing this out. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:14, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Flexi Disc Cover
Is Billie sitting on the mans back and the text Billie thanking her fans the cover of the Flexi Disc? Beatleswillneverdie (talk) 67:15, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Get rid of "misandry" from the lead
It's really weird that the word "misandry" is in the lead paragraph, even though if you google "Bad Guy Billie Eilish misandry" you get almost nothing, with some results on the first page simply containing excerpts from this article, or earlier versions of it. To me this seems like Wikipedia speaking a very obscure opinion or perspective and pushing it up more than its actual significance. PBZE (talk) 01:43, 7 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Fully agree, took it out. --GiantInsects (talk) 19:28, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Are more photos allowed to be added here?
Can I more photos of Billie here? SAYITWITHYOURCHEST (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)