Talk:Badlands (film)

Possible 1980s remake
Does anybody remember what I am guessing could have been a remake of this film from the 1980s? If not a remake, then it was certainly based on the Starkweather/Fugate story. I seem to recall the film being told from the perspective of the Starkweather character, and it beginning with him about to face the electric chair. I forget the name of the Starkweather character, although I remember the Fugate character was named Laura Ferguson (something that sticks in my mind because I had recently left school and there had been a Laura Ferguson in my class). I also remember the song 'In the Still of the Night' by the Five Satins being played at one point during the film.

My reason for saying all this is that if there was a remake, then something about that should be included the article. And what was the film's title? Was it also called Badlands? Or did it have another name?

81.152.144.255 21:18, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I also recall this film. Sadly, hoever, I don't remember its name. Brett Leaford (talk) 19:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * You might mean this film which was actually released in 1976. Named Stark Raving Mad it was a fictionalised account of the Starkweather case and starred Russell Fast and Marcie Severson as Richard Stark and Laura Ferguson. I've not actually seen the film myself so hope this is the right one and helps to jog your memory. TheRetroGuy (talk) 14:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Having said that, this film's imdb entry has its release date as January 1983. TheRetroGuy (talk) 14:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't There Be Something About Zodiac?
Just for the sake of trivia. It's strongly suggested that the 'a citizen' in the 1974 'citizen card' could have been Zodiac, based on handwriting etc. A lot of film articles seem to have little facts like this, I don't think it would hurt the article, just add interest. 81.129.143.107 (talk) 19:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I tend to agree (totally realize I'm commenting way to late on your post!)
 * Maybe I will come up with something. But what section to put it in? 67.61.147.25 (talk) 08:20, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Again, pretty late but I suggest The reception category. JerrySa1 (talk) 01:00, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

True romance
Shouldnt the article mention that True romance from 1993 is a remake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.150.21.45 (talk) 06:50, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Remake is a little strong in some ways, because the plot is different, but the beautiful music (same music) and southern girl narration were "remade." I too think that there should be something in the article.

budget
where is the 500,000 estimate for the budget coming from? we have malick on record in the article itself quoting 300,000, "excluding deferments". when looking for an outside source, i found a reference to the budget at 350,000 in this google books scan of a copy of "America's Film Legacy: The Authoritative Guide to the Landmark Movies in the National Film Registry". i'm going to change this to 300,000 for now. Nucas (talk) 03:18, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

The Sadist (1963)
There is a suggestion in the Wiki entry for the 1963 John Landis film mentioned above that it served as a possible inspiration for Badlands. Not sure if it's worth mentioning. Hanoi Road (talk) 17:54, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Phrasing
@User:Fred Gandt I'm confused by your last edit, since this is the plot of the film?? I wouldn't change it if it wasn't Stephanie921 (talk) 12:47, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Although, as far as I can tell from some research, the age of consent for girls in South Dakota during the 1950s was 16, thus Kit's act would technically be molestation in reality, I don't think that terminology best describes the act in context of the film. To say "they made love" or similar would be wildly improper; "had sex" would be coldly accurate but fail to address that this was Holly's first time and how that would affect her feelings with regard to Kit; that he "[took] her virginity" (as it was before your edits and is again after mine) seems a somewhat fair compromise, bearing in mind that (although not legally speaking) the act was consensual and while Kit clearly had greater control of the situation, Holly actually gave her virginity. The term "groomer" is massively misleading in context and Caril Ann Fugate is referred to as the girlfriend of Charles Starkweather in the associated source(s).  15:57, 25 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @User:Fred Gandt I don't think it matters whether the sources say that or not since it's factually inaccurate. She was 14 and couldn't and didn't consent. He groomed her. We can use the sources for their other content about her and Charles whilst acknowledging they are wrong on this matter. I.e. the bulk of their content is still reliable - making them WP:RS - they're just not perfect Stephanie921 (talk) 16:59, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Variance in citation styles
The Further reading section has a different citation style than the footnotes, which generally use Citation Style 1 (CS1) templates. As per WP:CITEVAR under the Generally considered helpful section, to summarize two bullet items:
 * imposing one style on an article with inconsistent citation styles
 * improving existing citations by adding missing information

I intend to add the appropriate citation templates for books & journal articles along with linking information such as a URL when available, ISBN, OCLC #, ISSN, DOI, or a combination as appropriate. Peaceray (talk) 04:19, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ Peaceray (talk) 05:46, 31 August 2023 (UTC)