Talk:Badminton/Archive 2

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2014
Hi, I would like to add info in the 'History'. Recently I was looking at some of Jean Simeon Chardin paintings. I was surprised to find out the an image of racket and shuttlecock had been painted by Jean Simeon Chardin in his painting Governess (1738). I guess it only goes to suggest the the origin of Badminton much earlier than the stated century and most probably were played by aristocrats of that time.

Alexandar Govindasamy (talk) 05:04, 8 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Interesting. Here's a link to the painting: http://www.wikiart.org/en/jean-baptiste-simeon-chardin/the-governess-1739  NQ    talk  06:04, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

❌ Battledore and Shuttlecock goes back 2000 years. - Arjayay (talk) 07:41, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

While I completely agree that Battledore and Shuttlecock traceable to 2000 years ago, the art is a piece of evidence that surely standing in between the contention "The beginnings of badminton can be traced to the mid-1800s in British India, where it was created by British military officers stationed there". (talk)contribs) 04:19, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Comparison section
Apart from seeming very insecure, this section is obviously due for one of the following: Tennis has no similar section and I can't see how it's relevant, except on the ed assumption that tennis is the more common game. Badminton's popularity in Asia rather precludes that being a possibility. — Llywelyn II   14:48, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * a to its own article on this topic,
 * merging of the content of this section into the other parts of this article, o
 * at minimum, parsing down to remove this focus on tennis within the badminton article.

Three-against-three
The article makes no mention of the three-against-three playing mode – a recent addition and an alternative to singles and doubles.

To provide some initial information: Three-against-three is said to have been invented by Li Yongbo, head coach of the Chinese national team, originally as a training exercise. It was later publicized and formalized, and quickly gained entry into many professional and amateur tournaments.

The 2013/14 season of the Chinese Badminton Super League, ongoing since the end of September, is playing three-against-three for the first time (replacing one of the double matches). This means the new playing mode is no longer just some fun exercise, but needs to be taken serious – seriously enough to deserve some explanation in Wikipedia.

Two version of rules currently exists for three-against-three: In one, all three player rotate to take on the role of server and receiver; in the other, used in the Chinese Super League, only two players are server and receiver (like doubles), while the third player is a "free player" who never serves nor receives. Additionally, the Super League requires the three-against-three match to be played between two men and one woman on each side. Wildgoosejournal (talk) 13:22, 21 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Find some sources and add it to the article. However, 3-v-3 dates back to the 19th century, so Chinese claims to have "invented" it shouldn't really be taken at face value. — Llywelyn II   14:56, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

EB
This page started out as a cut-and-paste of the Britannica article and very likely still includes text derived from it. It should be mentioned in the #References of the article, not the #External links section. (It may also be used as a placeholder source for the many sections of the article that currently lack a citation.) — Llywelyn II   14:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

The EB9 and EB11 explanations of the rules could also be used to create a section on the former state of play and how and why the original rules came to be modified, but it'd probably be preferable to find (and link!) the original Pune and Bath rules themselves. — Llywelyn II   16:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 November 2017
in the article, I would like to include how badminton was originally used as a fortune telling ritual. Ghinga7 (talk) 19:48, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sak ura Cart elet   Talk 01:08, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Here is a source: https://www.brownielocks.com/badminton.html Ghinga7 (talk) 23:57, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


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Here is a better source: https://books.google.com/books?id=i6LvDORHX_AC&pg=PA240&lpg=PA240&dq=fortune+telling+badminton&source=bl&ots=NjTnb-ShTk&sig=C5ReliSfzOY3jarbhFhg0FSJ3P8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjvne_ahbLXAhUH-lQKHc3gB5UQ6AEIMTAE#v=onepage&q=fortune%20telling%20badminton&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghinga7  (talk • contribs) 12:50, November 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * , I'm afraid this is a children's game book and is not what we consider a reliable source. Please read Identifying reliable sources before re-submitting this request.  Thank you. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

In Don Wolffman's book "the kid who invented the popsicle and other extraordinary stories behind everyday things" under the subtitle "badminton" he says "Badminton originated as a fortune-telling ritual... The length of time the ball could be kept in play supposedly revealed how long the people would live." this seems reliable. Ghinga7 (talk) 15:56, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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Wrong number of events
Never edited before or never found the need, until today I found an error and signed up and it looks like I have a little learning to do. I'm leaving this edit upto someone else.

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 * Since 1992, badminton has been a Summer Olympic sport with five events: men's singles, women's singles, men's doubles, women's doubles, and mixed doubles.

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It reads five events and then goes on stating six events.

Please change the word five to six.

Thanks P1PSALOT (talk) 10:30, 10 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi P1PSALOT, please read Badminton at the 1992 Summer Olympics. In 1992, badminton only played 4 events.Stvbastian (talk) 11:07, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2019
I am a semi-professional badminton player and I could add a lot more to this page, such as many more types of shots, national/international tournament rules, etiquette, etc. SdratbiL02496 (talk) 05:51, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


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Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2019
Request to edit the third subpoint on the "Comparison with tennis" section to avoid gendered language:

"In tennis, the serve is dominant to the extent that the server is expected to win most of his service games (at advanced level & onwards); a break of service, where the server loses the game, is of major importance in a match. In badminton, a server has far less an advantage and is unlikely to score an ace (unreturnable serve)."

"In tennis, the serve is dominant to the extent that the server is expected to win most of their service games (at advanced level & onwards); a break of service, where the server loses the game, is of major importance in a match. In badminton, a server has far less an advantage and is unlikely to score an ace (unreturnable serve)." Dhafjkskjh (talk) 18:55, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done  JTP (talk • contribs) 20:12, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2019
Suggest moving this paragraph:

''The server and receiver must remain within their service courts, without touching the boundary lines, until the server strikes the shuttlecock. The other two players may stand wherever they wish, so long as they do not block the vision of the server or receiver.''

From the 'Scoring' section up to the 'Serving' section. The paragraphs seems to apply to Serving, rather than Scoring. This text is pretty important to the rules around Serving. I almost missed it when I was looking for clarification on Serving, and only read that section. LCardinal (talk) 23:49, 28 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done NiciVampireHeart 01:04, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Shuttle Speed
The article seems to contrdict itself:
 * Badminton is the fastest racquet sport in the world with shuttles reaching speeds of up to 200 mph. Simon Archer set the shuttlecock speed in the Guinness World Records of 162 mph In 1997.

??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.108.192.71 (talk) 13:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The record was broken when a smash by Fu Hai Feng was clocked at 205 mph last year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.54.59.216 (talk) 00:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The shuttle speed record is listed differently in "records" and "comparisons with other racketed sports." One reads well over 400 km/h while the other reads 208 mph.  These are not equivalent speeds.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.80.36.95 (talk) 02:33, 25 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Also roddicks fastest serve was 155mph not 153mph someone else howbver would have to find a source but it is well documented —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.28.144 (talk) 11:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Now the speed has raised up tp 398kmph as seen in Victor China Open, 2019. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samriddha Paul (talk • contribs) 06:01, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Denmark Bias?
You'll see the picture of Peter Gade, a Danish player, once you load the wiki article of BADMINTON. He was once the world number one and was a very good player, but i don't see any reason in putting his picture on the badminton article. In the tennis, squash, soccer, american football pages, non of them ever used a player as their main picture to potray their sports. Even in Basketball, Michael Jordan is used, because he is a legendary status player which I think Peter Gade doesn't qualify for that.

And in the last paragraph in the "History & Development" section, it seems that the sentence is implying that Denmark is the dominant country in international competitive badminton but this isn't the case. Maybe rephrase it to something like Denmark is the dominant country in Europe while the current dominant country is China, and in some cases, Malaysia and Indonesia with countries like South Korea and Denmark posing a serious challenge etc.

Certainly better than that biased paragraph.

--124.13.137.126 (talk) 00:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh give me a break.. Laroucan (talk) 08:22, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2020
There are broken links in 'External links' section:
 * Laws of Badminton (http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14915)
 * Simplified Rules (http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14914)

advising update with:


 * Laws of Badminton (http://www.worldbadminton.com/rules/documents/bwfLaws2019.pdf)
 * Simplified Rules (https://system.bwfbadminton.com/documents/folder_1_81/Regulations/Simplified-Rules/Simplified%20Rules%20of%20Badminton%20-%20Dec%202015.pdf)

also recommending putting secure https for:
 * https://www.badmintonasia.org/
 * https://www.oceaniabadminton.org/

Regards Dubliner.Stephen Dubliner.Stephen (talk) 14:36, 22 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: Oceania does not support HTTPS. Everything else is Yes check.svg Done. PLEASE copy and paste the code to reply (Talk) 20:50, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

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