Talk:Baghdad/Archive 1

Disambig?
This page should be at Baghdad, Iraq but I don't have time to fix all the links. Sorry. Mswake 17:22 Aug 21, 2002 (PDT)

I don't believe this is necessary, unless there are several other Baghdads. See Paris, London, Glasgow, and so forth. -- CYD


 * There is a Bagdad, Florida ...

Latitude/longitude
If anyone can get a latitude and longitude for Baghdad, that'd be nice to know. Time zone it's in, too. Other info on Baghdad as it is, this seems to be largely historical stuff so far. -- JohnOwens 22:22 Mar 20, 2003 (UTC)
 * Added longitude and latitude. --LeeHunter 14:21, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Formatting: use of dashes
The - dashes seemed to work better with Michael's "–" in both ASCII and Unicode, whereas before they only worked in ASCII. This one time I think I'd go with Michael's version. -- Infrogmation

They were displaying in edit mode as non-printable characters, that's why I changed them. -- Zoe

Ambiguous text?
From the article: "Points of interest include the National Museum of Iraq, whose priceless collection of artifacts was looted after the capture of Iraq by US forces."

--> Is this ambiguous? Might someone read "... was looted by US forces"? I mean, they didn't, did they?  09:27, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Work needed
The recent events are woefully out of date in the first place, perhaps that whole section should be removed at least for the time being.--Ian 23:43, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I agree -- the current format should be converted to a section of summary of the past year's events --in the history section. [[User:Sverdrup|❝Sverdrup❞ ]] 00:13, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

"Baghdad"
"some believe it is from the Aramaic for "sheep enclosure," while others believe it is from the Persian for "gift of God."" Um, that would be Dr. Mohammed Some, would it? Some is invariably wrong: Chahar Bagh (or Char Bagh) is an Iranian and Mughal term, adopted bu the Mughal emperors for a formal garden laid out in four plots of equal size and divided by axial paths. Wetman 02:40, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * I don't get it. You are arguing that neither of them are correct? Perhaps not, but it seems that they still are real proposed meanings. Everyking 10:23, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Image
I have seen this nice image at earthobservatory -- I'd be very nice to accompany the Iraq war section. I can't find license information on the picture though; it says "Image courtesy NASA/GSFC/MITI/ERSDAC/JAROS, and U.S./Japan ASTER Science Team". Since it's not only NASA owning the copyright, we can't be sure the picture is PD. [[User:Sverdrup|❝Sverdrup❞ ]] 10:13, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC).
 * Seems like it would be ok with proper credit. It's all paid for by taxpayer dollars which usually puts things in the public domain. Here's what the site says:
 * The purpose of NASA's Earth Observatory is to provide a freely-accessible publication on the Internet where the public can obtain new satellite imagery and scientific information about our home planet. The focus is on Earth's climate and environmental change. In particular, we hope our site is useful to public media and educators. Any and all materials published on the Earth Observatory are freely available for re-publication or re-use, except where copyright is indicated. We ask that NASA's Earth Observatory be given credit for its original materials.

Location
The article states: "Baghdad sits on the Tigris River at the point where the Tigris is closest to the Euphrates River, a distance of about 50 kilometres." Given that the Tigris eventually joins the Euphrates, I don't see how this can be the closest approach of the two. Would the simple "Baghdad sits on the Tigris River at the point where the Tigris is about 50 kilometres from the Euphrates River" omit anything of importance? JamesMLane 14:42, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me. That bit was from a site that didn't sound very authoritative. --LeeHunter 23:53, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

OK, I'll make the change. Now you've got me worrying -- what other bits are in here from that site? JamesMLane 06:20, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Trimming the History section
I've removed the following paragraphs from the History section. It seems to be too much detail for a general article on the city. Perhaps they could go somewhere else. --LeeHunter 01:53, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * A largely Shiite district of Baghdad, Sadr City, seized a certain amount of autonomy in the week following the capture. Its leaders expressed uncertainty as to whether it would return to the control of a future national civil government.


 * On August 19, 2003, The Canal Hotel, Baghdad headquarters for the United Nations, was destroyed by a car bomb, killing at least 24 people (including the senior UN enovy to Iraq, Sérgio Vieira de Mello) and wounding over 100 (see also Attacks on humanitarian workers). Other attacks, either on U.S. troops or on Iraqi civilians, especially those working for the troops, were common occurrences.

A little history...
I feel that the subject outlining the history of British occupation has been poorly outlined. The acts of Sir Arnold Wilson and others during the early 1900 occupation should certainly deserve mention. Who had the intention of creating a new state within Palestine as the home of the Jewish community in Europe? I only know fragments of the actual history, but I reiterate the fact that this bit of history certainly deserves expansion.

I didn't write the above. I would add to it there should be mention that more than a third of Baghdad's population in the 1930s was actually Arab Jews who lived integrated with their neighbors and enjoyed some status, such that after independence the Iraqi Finance Minister was even a Jew. Following the creation of the State of Israel, escalating tension led to virtually all them leaving. I realize it is a controversial subject, but a migration of such a sizable chunk of the population can't be ignored. Brassrat 16:55, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

the Sack of Baghdad
The Wikipage on Abbasid shows February 28, 1258, instead of February 10, as the date of the sack of Baghdad. Can anyone confirm this, please ? -- PFHLai 05:49, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)
 * This issue has be dealt with. Please see Talk:Abbasid. -- PFHLai 18:39, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 08:51, 19 April 2016 (UTC)