Talk:Bahun/Archives/2018/July

Merger proposal
[Transferred discussion]:

Needs to be merged with "Bahun" article
80% overlap. I have already copied non-duplicated material there. LADave (talk) 20:04, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I basically agree as long as there will be a redirect to Bahun, which is common practice anyway I suppose. The term Brahmin-Hill is seldom used and not as well known as Bahun. I suggest let's wait for a week or so -- if there are no more comments or meaningful arguments in this period against a merger, then just go ahead. What do you think ?  BhagyaMani (talk) 13:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with waiting to see if anyone else wants to comment. Perhaps Brahman-Hill is more descriptive though.  We *could* redirect Bahun to Brahman-Hill.  So how does this term translate?  Do people actually say पहाडी ब्राह्मण् (Pahari Brahman) or is it (almost) always Bahun?  What do academics and the better newspapers do?
 * An incidental question about the list of Brahman names. Are all of them found in Nepal? LADave (talk) 23:18, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Some of the Brahman names listed are also found in India -- these names are older than international borders. BhagyaMani (talk) 09:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * True, but we are writing about hill Bahuns here. A name not established in the hill districts should not be in this list. But no problem if it is found in the hills *and* the Tarai, or hills *and* India.  LADave (talk) 08:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Bahun is the term used in every-day Nepali language, not Brahman-Hill, which is only a translation of the Nepali word पहाडी ब्राह्मण् for Bahuns coming from the mid-hills; therefore, the redirect should be from Brahman-Hill to the Bahun article ! BhagyaMani (talk) 09:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I tried searching Nepali Wikipedia There were hundreds of articles containing "बाहुन".  Only five articles contained पहाडी *and* ब्राह्मण.  None of these actually had "पहाडी ब्राह्मण" together as a phrase.  This may not be "pakka" proof but it certainly supports what you are saying above.  So that's what I'll do  -- merge into Bahun. LADave (talk) 08:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

You're going to love this one! There's another article Bramins of Nepal. I'm starting a merge proposal there as well. LADave (talk) 15:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Apparently, two different people started these articles without checking the available infos. I agree to bring some meaningful structure into this "huddle-muddle".

Re: Merge into Bahun article -- since nobody so far objected, I suggest: go ahead BhagyaMani (talk) 18:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Title of article and merging
The title "Brahman-Hill" is obviously incorrect and should be "Brahmin-Hill". Because: Re: proposal to merge with Bahun article: both are so badly referenced that merging them does not improve any of the two. Therefore, I suggest to improve this one by using reliable scientific sources. These are scarce but they exist. BhagyaMani (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * for the meaning of Brahman see this and also this article
 * in the scientific literature about this ethnic group, it is referred to as "Brahmin-Hill" or "Brahmin (Hill)", but not called "Brahman-Hill".