Talk:Bali Nine/Archive 2

Poor Article
There are significant portions of this article that lack citations (GA 2a). Given the serious nature of the article it is assumed that due diligence would be applied.

Examples:

The Bali Nine is the name given to nine Australian citizens arrested on 17 April 2005 in Denpasar on the island of Bali, Indonesia, in a plan to smuggle 8.3kg of heroin valued at approximately $A 4 million from Indonesia to Australia. -- A citation is required.

Police are unclear how the two groups from Sydney and Brisbane are linked, however established movements of members of the group before their departure for Indonesia. -- What does this mean? Citation required.

Lawrence had travelled to Bali on three occasions, first arriving on October 16, 2004, then on December 5, 2004 and again on April 6. Matthew Norman on December 5, 2004 January 19, 2005 and April 6, 2005; Myuran Sukumaran on October 4, 2004 and April 8, 2005; Andrew Chan on October 16, 2004 and April 6, 2005 and Thac Duc Thanh Nguyen on December 5, 2004 and April 8, 2005. Chen, Stephens, Czugaj and Rush were on their first trip abroad when arrested on April 17, 2005. -- Citation required.

etc. etc.

There are at least 8 instances of missing citations in the article.

Given the lack of citations, the quality of the article should be down graded. Photographs lack citations and are inflammatory. Without content they imply guilt. The tone of the article is meant to be neutral. Guilt should not be implied without reference to the facts.


 * I stripped the GA status since it has many unsourced sections which would violate BLP. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

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Caption: Tach Duc Thanh Nguyen (l), Matthew Norman and Si Yi Chen, three of the so-called "Bali Nine" await sentencing for drug smuggling in Denpasar, Indonesia. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 156.75.192.111 (talk • contribs).

Good Article
Enjoyed this article. Well written & referenced and fully comprehensive. The images also are fully appropriate. I am assuming fair use qualifies the images for the story. One tip though, when referencing, the format saves a lot of hassle keeping things in order and allowing multiple use with the same number. It might help for the next time, I know it saved me headaches. Cheers SeanMack 14:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Problem
"...approximately $A4 million from Indonesia to Australia." This is part of the first sentence. A4 million is not an amount of money but Id dont know the coorect amount to change it. BauerPower 23:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Errors
It says that Czugaj and Stephens did not have their original sentences reduced to 20 years upon appeal, when infact it was only Stephens. Czugaj had his sentence downgraded with the rest. Rush did not - as i thought he chose not to appeal and instead go for clemency or something, as he was advised was safer.. but now hes got the death penalty as he mustve appealed to the higher court like the rest.

Problem
The reports dated September 6 need to be confirmed, there are different reports now circulating about what the Indonesian Supreme Court has decided.


 * Contrary to Australian media, the Indonesian media are saying that Lawrence has also been sentenced to death. Hayabusa future 09:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I didnt know that. I thought Renae chose not to appeal to the Supreme Court and thus accepted her 20-year sentence. I also heard that Czugaj and Stephens got life once again, but why not death like the rest? Guess we'll have to wait and see.