Talk:Ball Ground, Georgia/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 21:08, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the ✅ tag to state when something is addressed.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Lede

 * No need to link United States.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Aoidh (talk) 20:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * First two sentences start "Ball Ground".  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Aoidh (talk) 20:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Might need a link as to what a "Cherokee" is.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Aoidh (talk) 20:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Within the last 20 years - this sentence is likely to be dated, use definitive dates.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Aoidh (talk) 20:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * three times its 2000 population of 730. three time the population in 2000 - 730.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ I did reword it slightly - Aoidh (talk) 20:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

General

 * Before incorporation as a town is a pretty poor heading title.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ I browsed other city GAs and borrowed the heading "Early history and settlement" from Everett, Washington. - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * what is now - we try to avoid saying things that can become dated - see WP:CURRENT  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * North Georgia.[9] [10] - stray space.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The current thing I linked before happens multiple times in the article.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ I read through the article again and I believe I addressed all of those instances. - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Originally the name Ball Ground referred to the area around what is now the city and was not the name for any town or community.[11] The area around what is now the city was named Ball Ground by the settlers - very wordy for The name "Ball Ground" was named by settlers for an area of land, not for the town or community.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ I reworded your suggestion slightly. - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * A lot of the time you start sentences with "in X year". These need a comma afterwards and also should watch out for WP:PROSELINE  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ I tried to change the wording up as best as I could and added the commas. - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Only need to link items the first use. There's a few duplinks about.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Decline and growth - bit of an oxymoron.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Changed section header to "Revitalization". - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * A television documentary - this probably needs to say whom from.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Added "on North Georgia's Channel 11" I can't wikilink a specific channel because whatever Channel 11 referred to in 1971 apparently no longer exists and Channel 11 branded TV stations in the United States is similarly blank for Atlanta/North Georgia. - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * A lot of demographics is uncited. At least a source at the end of the paragraph is needed.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * "110 males.\" - typo?  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Stray \ removed. - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * median income for a household in the city was $81,900, and the median income for a family was $92,690. - maybe it's just cause I'm a maths geek, but a median isn't always the best measure of an average.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * For better or worse, median is the only average provided by the Census data for these; see the recently promoted Everett, Washington for example. Median is used because it's what the census data provides. - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Demographics has a graph of previous census results, but the prose doesn't mention them at all.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ It was originally in the (now renamed) Decline and growth section but I moved it to demographics. Rather than just listing each decade in prose I tried to touch on the more relevant dates in a manner similar to other city GAs. - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * No need to link measurements on every use.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * opened in 2017.[citation needed] - can we fix this tag?  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ That was a leftover from before the article was expanded and was superseded by the sentence that followed it; I forgot to remove that sentence. - Aoidh (talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Review meta comments

 * I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 21:08, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reviewing this. With the exception of the median data provided by the US Census, I have addressed all of the issues above. Please let me know if anything else is needed. - Aoidh (talk) 21:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC)