Talk:Baltic porter

Merge
I redirected and merged this article with the parent article Stout. Another editor disagreed and reverted my action, then sent me the following message. I gave him an explanation of my action. I am now putting a merge tag on the article to open discussion. SilkTork 07:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Baltic porter
Hello. I have reverted your redirect. I believe it merits its own article. I mean, it's a good idea to include info on the "parent" article, but I don't agree with the redirect. Let me know if you still disagree. Renata 16:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting in touch. I can see how someone might consider the redirect odd at first glance. However, if you note, the Baltic porter article consists of one paragraph, one picture, and a list of beers. The beers are random and non-notable. Such lists are commonly frowned upon and removed from articles. When the list is removed the article is simply a stub. When there is more information that may be the time to consider splitting it off from the main article and creating a stand alone article. As you are probably aware, Baltic porter is stout. The place to discuss it is in the general article on stout, and it is helpful to a reader who is looking for information on Baltic porter to be directed to the article on stout where Baltic porter can be discussed in context. I would direct your attention to Irish stout, Imperial Stout, Milk stout, Oatmeal stout, Chocolate stout and Oyster stout, all of which have been accepted into the main article. There has been some discussion on these merges, see Talk:Stout. I accept your concern, and am grateful to you for letting me know what you have done. There are always alternative views, and it's good to hear what other readers and editors are thinking. My own view is that Baltic porter could have its own article, but it's just not ready at the moment. However, that is only my view - if I haven't managed to convince you and would like to get a wider view then please raise the matter on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Beer. Regards SilkTork 19:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Beer list
This is the list of beer brands found in the article. Such lists tend to be random and POV and are commonly removed from articles. The most notable examples can be chosen and detailed in the article, along with an explanation of why the beer is notable. SilkTork 07:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Examples

 * Aldaris Porteris from Alus Daritava Aldaris (Baltic Beverages Holdings) in Riga, Latvia
 * Baltika Porter from Pivzavod Baltika (Baltic Beverages Holding) in Saint Petersburg, Russia
 * D. Carnegie & Co. Stark Porter from Carlsberg Sverige (Pripps Bryggerier) in Göteborg, Sweden
 * Dojlidy Polski from Browar Dojlidy S.A. in Białystok, Poland
 * Koff Porter from Sinebrychoff in Kerava, Finland
 * Kozlak Porter (no longer in production), Browar Wielkopolski w Krotoszynie (defunct) in Krotoszyn, Poland
 * Limfjords-Porter from Thisted Bryghus in Thisted, Denmark
 * Okocim Porter from Okocim Brewery. A Polish porter brewed only for the United States and Canada.
 * Saku Porter from Saku in Harjumaa, Estonia
 * Stepan Razin Porter from Stepan Razin Brewery, Saint Petersburg, Russia
 * Utenos Porteris from Utenos alus in Utena, Lithuania
 * Żywiec Porter from Żywiec in Cieszyn, Poland