Talk:Baltimore club

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That is some BS, straight up.

reply: yeah i saw some thing on mtv and they were calling baltimore club music club crack and gutter i think this is the same thing tho

I'm curious, what is the BS?

20:55, 13 September 2006 The following is posted by William Jackson ::: i am stricly against merging the topic of Baltimore Club Music with any other genre of music. this is simply becuase the fact, as i am a native to Baltimore, there is no other sound quite like "b more club." i am well traveled all up and down the east coast and have family that have moved from baltimore to various other parts of the country and we all can atest to the fact that Baltimore Club Music is unique and only available in and around Baltimore. Furthermore, as a casual fan of hip-hop and urban arts i must also point out the fact that Baltimore Club Music has its roots along with many other genres of sounds from various sources.

with as much street credibility that i can muster i say this one final statement: "Fa real doh, its like a B more thang baby! Dis dat shit dat get the club poppin off  kna'mean!" thank you for reading......oppose the merging of Baltimore Club Music

I am misty eyed after reading this article, it has been so long since I remember going to Club Paradox's Fever and Rise. I would be against merging the article as well, Baltimore Breaks (club) are as unique as DC's Go-go or Hardcore. And there are no articles documenting the extremely rich history of Baltimore's rave/club scene from the 90's.- 209.248.175.82 17:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect Information
The information in the article is incorrect. Baltimore's "Club Music" is from the 1980's  when there was no such place as the Paradox. The two big Clubs were Signals and Odells. DC Go-Go came on scene around the same time and there was a huge ravalry between the two Cities.

Frank Skis biggest club mixes were done in 1986 with a compilation of Doug E Fresh's song "The Show", "Roxanne Roxanne", and "The Peewee". He also did a master mix in the late 1980's with the song "Doo-Doo Brown".

Sentrix (talk) 09:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)Sentrix

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SciFi Club
''' Something I conjured up, hopefully the next wave of "Techno"

This is SciFi

SciFi (SciFi [club/tech/breaks/house]), Alien Music, Tech (no)-Club/ T-Club – a subgenre of Electronic Dance Music, which utilizes “traditional” Baltimore style breakbeats, with Detroit and European Techno style synths, strong SciFi/Techno overtones, backdrops and samples (hence the name), and of Trance, Ambient, Electro, Old School Rave (’89-94) elements thrown in. It was created by Stylah3001 (a.k.a. D.J. Shadeux B) in 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BJM3223 (talk • contribs) 23:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

"Detroit Club"
Its incorrect to call Detroit Club music(AKA Ghettotech) a derivative form of Baltimore Club. Certainly the styles are related, but neither one came from the other. Ghettotech, Miami Bass, Ghetto House(Chicago), and Baltimore Club all sprang up independently before inevitable cross pollinating each other with influences. 99.20.228.21 (talk) 22:59, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Philly and Jersey club
I have just included information regarding Philly and Jersey club music, both branches that were inspired by Baltimore club music but adopted their own characteristics. For starters, Baltimore club music has raunchy, repetitive vocals that are unheard of in the other two styles. Philly club music includes a “think break,” gunshots, “What!”, “Hey!”, and an increased tempo, unlike Bmore or Jersey club music. This style is considered “party music” due to its tempo and elements of hardstyle. Baltimore club music spread to New Jersey as record producers would run to Baltimore to pick up latest tracks and bring them back to New Jersey to play at parties. As this concept grew in popularity, the New Jersey DJ’s began to twist the music and shape it into their own style. The sound began to mutate and smoothed out all of the rough edges of Bmore club music. Jersey club dance is simpler and more universal in response to the smoother sounds. Source: Schwarz, Adam. “You Think You Know But You Have No Idea: The Difference Between Baltimore, Philly, and Jersey Club.” Vice, Vice, 13 Aug. 2015, www.vice.com/en_us/article/qkabvb/you-think-you-know-but-you-have-no-idea-the-difference-between-baltimore-philly-and-jersey-club. alyako3 04:00, 26 March 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alyssaakomer (talk • contribs)

Baltimore Club Dancing Developments
I started out by stating who the main individual was that made Baltimore Club dancing a huge part of the Baltimore Club culture. Terry Wedington introduced a variety of new dance moves and expanded Baltimore Club dancing from just in the city to around the world. Other individuals who are a part of the Baltimore Club culture are beginning to influence the younger generations to continue on their traditions and keep Baltimore Club dancing alive. There is a young woman named Janiyah Johnson who has been entering dance competitions with the Baltimore Club style of dance and was crowned 2017 Queen of Baltimore due to it. Towards the end of my excerpt, I made sure to include where I had got my research from and why it is reliable. KQED is a notable radio station and television station located in San Francisco, California. This source is credible as they keep up with all of the latest music and keep up multiple series on their television station such as, “If Cities Could Dance.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lyaq11 (talk • contribs) 19:33, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Baltimore Club dance
I have recently included information regarding the dance aspect of Baltimore Club culture. I included how Baltimore Club dance really came to be and how, through nightclubs and dance battles, these dances gradually grew in popularity. I also added how with the spread of Baltimore Club music, Baltimore Club dance grew right alongside with it. One of the many moves born out of Baltimore Club music is the “crazy legs,” a fierce shaking of both legs combined with simultaneous foot tapping and shoulder shrugging. Another dance move evolved out of Baltimore Club music was the “What What”, a dance move involving difficult footwork where one raises up one bent leg over the other in a fast, hopping-like movement. I went on to explain how Baltimore Club culture's popularity was short lived and how because of that, the dancing lost a lot of its popularity. Lastly, I explained the reasoning behind why most believe the culture has slowly "died off" through the lack of reserved time slots on the radio for Baltimore Club music, along with the closing of major Baltimore clubs. Source: Britto, Brittany. “Keep the Beat.” Data Desk - Baltimore Sun, data.baltimoresun.com/features/keep-the-beat/. The credibility of this site stems from the fact that it is written by Baltimore natives who have been involved in the Baltimore Club scene since the early 1990s.

Baltimore Club Dancing History
I recently added this new section on the history of Baltimore Club dancing. I talked about how it came about, the important leaders that started it, and the ups and downs Bmore Club dancing has been through. My article talked about the beginning of Baltimore Club dancing and how it was started. It was started by TSU Terry as a way to express his feelings and unleash his emotions. My article mentions that Bmore Club dancing helped young kids stay out of trouble and find something meaningful to do in life. The article gives many quotes from TSU Terry, that really help bring the message alive. You can hear the passion and love that he has for Bmore Club dance, just by reading those. The article also talks about how Bmore Club dancing has evolved into other forms of dance, and has been stolen by others. Baltimore Club dancing is not as popular as it once was, but many people are trying to help it make a come back. It has touched the lives of so many, and helped many escape bad times in their lives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamryncrossley1 (talk • contribs) 23:57, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Peer Review: Each sentence does, indeed, lead back to a reliable/verifiable source that provided the information. All of her language was un-biased and neutral, as to not sway the audience in a certain direction. The page contains no unsourced opinions/value statements, so nothing needs to be removed. Great job! alyako3 21:43, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Baltimore Dancing Club Addition Review
Hi I have written a brief review of the recent edits made to the page and hope you appreciate my constructive criticism! This review is over the Dancing section of the Baltimore club page.

1. Does each sentence of the proposed edit lead back to a reliable source for a reference or citation? If not, point out which ones do not, and how they need to be fixed.

The source used is reliable and all the info can be tied back to the source provided. The only edit I would make is adding internal links within the entire section for key words such as: foot tapping, shoulder shrugging, Paradox, Hammerjacks, hip hop, and Disc Jockeys. The adding of these hyperlinks readers can click will help solidify your article and make it more credible. 2. Is any of the language that the edit uses subjective or not-neutral? For example, "most popular pop singer" is a subjective criteria that is not neutral. However, "winner of 10 Grammy awards", when backed up by a reliable source, is acceptable as it makes use of verifiable information.

The majority of the addition does not contain any subjective text; however, there is a point made without any significant evidence to back it up.

“During its highest point of popularity, DJs in the world of Baltimore Club music received international recognition and were featured on the records of major artists. Due to this publicity with Baltimore Club music, naturally, Baltimore Club dance became popular internationally. But international recognition given to Baltimore Club music and dance was short lived.”

That section above could use some backing up or more detail about how the club gained international fame.

3. Does the language contain contains unsourced opinions and value statements, which are not neutral and should be removed? For example, instead of saying: “She was the best singer,” the text should say: “She had 14 number one hits, more than any other singer.”

The article lacks any biased statements of that nature.Cmatt22 (talk) 21:43, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Peer Review for Baltimore Club Dancing Developments section
1. The writer does not have sources or citation in his article. The article sounds like it has factual evidence backing up his writing but I do not see any sources cited. They need to add sources.

2. The first sentence says “the man who made dancing to this music popular” which is not neutral. Everything else is neutral and sounds like it is factual.

3. The article does not have unsourced opinions or value statements. The article seems to have mostly factual evidence rather than opinions.

Avoiding incorrect Information
I have noticed many false or inaccurate information being added with no sources. Appears to be straight vandalism trying to contort accuracy of the history, timeline and overall description of this genre. There are many valuable sources available online pertaining to the history of the genre through different interviews & articles provided. Also I believe that some of these sections can be re-worked with better verbiage and updated resources providing accurate and reliable sources at a neutraul but factual stance. These need to be added and cited. Livinroomfix421 (talk) 21:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)