Talk:Bam Thwok

Failing GA
I have decided to fail this one for two main reasons:


 * Unsourced major assertions. Right in the intro, we read that "some fans" disliked the organ solo. It's not sourced there. Nor is it sourced in the article under "Reaction". We cannot just take some editor's word for it. Then, footnote 2 tells us, "The organ is an uncommon element in modern music". Says who? What kind of modern music? "The record was the first time a Pixies record could be so widely reviewed". Because it was on the web? Long ago it was rather easy to buy Pixies' CDs and tapes. Is there a source for this? I'd like to see it. Debatable, subjective assertions like that do not epitomiuze the best or near-best that Wikipedia can produce.


 * Clunky, awkward prose. "a band she formed of which she was the only constant member"; "Without the record company distribution, a new single would not receive as much publicity and a major release was important for a band keen to reassert their status.", and repeated uses of "the song" where a pronoun could have done. This needs a rewrite by an experienced hand.

I could also see more in this article, and some more images (maybe a screenshot of the download page? Is there a video a screenshot could be taken from? A contemporary picture of the band?) could help a bit. Daniel Case 23:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * For the record, these comments have now been addressed. CloudNine 16:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

GA on hold

 * Although its lyrics do not explicitly mention "monsters" or a "party", lines such as "we got a lot of shakin' in our hips" suggest dancing and other lyrics loosely tie in with her original inspiration. The main theme of "Bam Thwok", goodwill, is mentioned in some of the lyrics, such as "Here's 50,000 watts of goodwill!" - This needs a reference as it currently seems like WP:Original Research ✅
 * Removed the paragraph; couldn't find references.


 * the band is currently not associated with any major record label. Reference?
 * Well, since their 2004 reunion, they haven't yet signed to a major record label. I can find 2004 references saying they haven't yet signed to a label, but nothing that says "of March 2007". What do you think?".

Rest looks good to me, if you disagree with anything mentioned I'm open for discussion. M3tal H3ad 10:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Image:BamThwok.ogg needs a detailed fair use rationale. ✅
 * The song is an upbeat - the reference at the end doesn't say it was "upbeat" ✅
 * and a short guitar solo by Santiago begins. "begins" could be removed ✅
 * Thanks for your review. My comments are above. CloudNine 10:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That sure was quick :o. I guess a 2004 ref would be ok for GA, but find a new one as soon as you can. M3tal H3ad 10:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. I changed the wording, so a 2007 ref might no longer be needed. CloudNine 10:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Goodwork, and congratulations on getting Doolittle featured. M3tal H3ad 10:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Now congrats on FA, keep em coming :) M3tal H3ad 07:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! CloudNine 10:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Poor Citation
I know that the link to listentome.com (3) was used because there aren't too many other sites that can be used for citation in this situation, but I really think it should be replaced. As far as information goes, the website itself seems pretty low-key and unprofessional, even for a blog. I think using a more reliable source would greatly increase the reliability of the statements involved.71.180.220.103 (talk) 05:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Deleted from iTunes Store?
Song no longer appears to be available in the iTunes Store (UK). Can't find any references to it being deleted though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chappers1 (talk • contribs) 02:02, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Dead references and replacements
AVersion.com is so dead that it's not even at archive.org; I've been hunting around for replacement sources.

"From the handwriting, you could tell that this book must have belonged to a little kid," Deal said. "This kid had written a short story, a paragraph really, about a party that took place in another universe, about people and monsters that were partying together. It's a song about loving everyone, showing good will to everyone." -  this is on Rolling Stone and NME.

Francis praised "Bam Thwok," as "a really good song." --- I found this on Movement Magazine and PunkNews; it seems to be from a press release (as does the 'people and monsters' comment, really).

At the time of "Bam Thwok"'s release, the Pixies' management gave no indication as to whether future releases would be limited to the iTunes Music Store. - haven't found this yet. DS (talk) 12:38, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

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FA criteria not met
This article currently has issues with verification: 1. an entirely dead reference where no replaceable source exists, 2. a completely unverified claim about Kim Deal donating a composition to the band, and 3. weasel words claiming that two people's relationship had been mended when this is not mentioned anywhere in the source. ArcticSeeress (talk) 19:07, 24 May 2022 (UTC)