Talk:Bamboo/Archive 1

Thank you
This was orginally posted at Wikipedia_talk:Contact_us by someone unfamilar with how to contact the authors of the article. I'm moving it here (unedited), and I concur - great work everyone on a great article. -JJLeahy 00:09, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

I am posting this here, becuase i was not able to find an email to send this to you. But I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE BAMBOOWEB SITE IS AWESOME, I AM WORKING ON MY DEGREE AND WILL GRADUATE NEXT YEAR (THANKS TO YOU); I AM NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND MY TEXT BOOKS AT TIMES, WHICH LEAD ME TO THIS WEBSITE BY ACCIDENT, I AM A FAITHFULL PROMOTER NOW AND I REALLY CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH.

FOREVER IN YOUR DEBT

JFINCH

Cultural Aspects
Could someone please explain this sentence "Also, bamboo is considered second in the rank in the order of "Matsu (pine wood), Take (bamboo), Ume (plum)" and this order is used when ordering a sushi course or getting a room in a traditional Ryokan inn."

It is not clear what the Matsu, Take, and Ume have to do with ordering sushi. I found this site which mentions that those words mean large, medium, and small but I'm not sure if that's all their is to it. amRadioHed 04:37, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I have revised the importance of the bamboo in Philippine culture. I felt that it should be mentioned first because the whole creation story of a whole people started with the bamboo, whereas the Malaysian one only mentions the creation of the woman.--Chicbicyclist 21:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

It's fine
I think it's fine, it just needs a little cleanuo here and there. Nothing major!

sympodial vs. monopodial
I believe that the terms "sympodial" and "monopodial" are being used incorrectly to describe bamboo growth habits (and yes, I know the bamboo growers themselves are using these terms). These terms seem to have originated with orchids, where they describe very different growth habits. MrDarwin 22:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

How are they being used incorrectly? please specify the differance in growth habits.

Azamien (talk) 17:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Fruit?
I have heard that some species are able to produce a sort of edible fruit. Does anyone know more about this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.216.89.236 (talk • contribs).

Fastest plant
Wouldn't it be interesting to include the fact that some bamboo species are the fastest growing plants on Earth (as stated in the Guinness Book of Records)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.55.116.210 (talk • contribs).


 * a video would be nice too i don't believe that: 30cm per day! -- Hahih 18:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Is it true bamboo grows in steps? Can you see/hear it grow?

New website
A new website providing tools for identification of bamboos has been created. Someone please have a look and if the content seems appropriate for inclusion in the external links, then put it in.

http://www.bamboo-identification.co.uk/

Bamboo Identifier 12:35, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Bamboo doesn't grow taller or fatter?
The article says that a culm will reach full height and diameter in one season, never growing taller or wider. Is this true? I wandered a mountainside and harvested madake bamboo once in Japan (at the end of a growing season) and I thought the variation in culm diameters might be due to age. But apparently not? Surprising. --Ds13 18:43, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

No, it does not. The larger culms are more mature culms. Every year, the new shoots get larger and larger around as the supporting root structure below the surface gets larger and more complex, having the ability to support larger plants. This is also why it is harder to transplant larger plants, because the required root system needs to be large. --Cngodles 18:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * That sounds logical; thanks for the response. If we can find a source for this fact (to put verifiability to rest), we can delete/fix the existing "fact" in the article. --Ds13 23:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

This article could do with some serious language editing. Some of the cultural manifestations described are also quite ambiguous and thus weaken the latter part.192.58.68.49 10:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Cngodles is correct. This article has great information about the growth of Bamboo Lewis Bamboo, Growth Habits

Azamien (talk) 17:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Any one heard of bamboo rice?????
is there any type of rice in bamboo??? if yes what is it called.... please provide the details....
 * There's a type of food where rice is cooked in tubes of bamboo, if that's what you mean. LDHan 17:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)\


 * No, bamboo rice is rice to which chlorophyll from bamboo is added during the processing. It's an Asian food.  KP Botany 17:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * No, when the Bamboo is completely grown, it flowers and then forms rice called bamboo rice. This rice is smaller in size but similer to paddy. This is eatebale and were commonly used by triblas before. Now the food products made using bamboo rice is considered very delecious.


 * YES KP Botany is correct  the unsinged person is making stuff up.    Azamien (talk) 19:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

bamboo culture
why bamboo is not being cultivated in india? reasons for it. Unsigned comment posted 03:25, 2006 November 20 by Krts


 * Bamboo is cultivated in Inida. KP Botany 19:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Bamboo from Rayon
Anyone know what "Bamboo from Rayon" is? I bought an extremely comfortable "bamboo" robe--it feels kina like fleece. On the tag it says "80% Bamboo from Rayon". Meonkeys 18:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Bamboo fibre is made by pulping bamboo to break it down into raw cellulose, This cellulose is then converted (regenerated) into fibre. This fibre is know as bamboo fibre, bamboo viscose, bamboo rayon, spun bamboo etc, but it's all basically the same thing. The bamboo fibre can also be blended with cotton, silk, man made fibres and many others. pauly1060 23:50, 14 February 2007

Toxins?
Can it be specified which species have toxins that must be leached? This is disturbing information, even more so that the article isn't specific about which types have to be watched out for. Badagnani 01:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Bamboo for High-end Fly Fishing Rods
Google bamboo fly rods and you will find dozens of makers of bamboo fly rods in the uS and abroad for thousands of dollars each.....


 * Thanks, I added this to the bottom of the uses section. KP Botany 04:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Conservation/Evironmental
I've heard both that bamboo grows so fast that it is a renewable resource and is unlikely to be unsustanable harvested, and that various groups are discouraging it's use for chopsticks because it is being overharvested. Does anyone have some sources and knowledge on the issue that can add it to the article? - Taxman Talk 23:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Just because it is sustainable does not mean that it is being used sustainably.

Animal diets
The article makes brief mention of the panda's diet but I think this is worth bringing out in more detail along with other bamboo-eaters since the plant is so key to their survival. Notably the bamboo lemurs and bamboo rats are also heavily dependent on the plant (and another interesting note is that the extinct gigantopithecus is also thought to have been predominantly a bamboo-eater and competition with pandas is thought by some to have been a contributing factor in their extinction).

--Mcorazao 15:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Biology
This article hardly talks about the biology of bamboo. 71.222.152.114 16:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Taxonomy Botanically, bamboo is classified thusly:

KINGDOM: Plantae PHYLUM (DIVISION): Magnoliophyta CLASS: Liliopsida SUBCLASS: Commelinidae ORDER: Cyperales FAMILY: Gramineae (Poaceae) SUBFAMILY: Bambusoideae TRIBE: Bambuseae SUBTRIBE: bambusinae

American Bamboo Socicty Azamien (talk) 16:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

moon
What's with the, " Amazingly, some people claim that patches of Bamboo have even been seen growing on the surface of the dark side of the moon."reference? Is this humor? Is this spamming? Is it some reference to an unreferenced folk legend? Can we get a link to the legend or something. I simply find this odd. Rozzychan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rozzychan (talk • contribs) 03:05, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Can bamboo be considered a "tree"?
I've heard that bamboo is a grass, not a tree. However, can bamboo be considered a tree as well? 131.191.64.130 (talk) 02:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

No we cannot classifiy a grass as a tree. The classifications of taxonomy are life, domain, kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species. The International Code of Botanical Nomenclature sets the precidence for classifing plants. The ICBN can only be changed by an International Botanical Congress (IBC), with the International Association for Plant Taxonomy providing the supporting infrastructure. IF The IBC changes bamboo from a grass to a tree then we can change the entry here. Azamien (talk) 16:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Weight of bamboo
The article states: "When treated, bamboo forms a very hard wood which is both lightweight and exceptionally durable." But bamboo is also said to be quite dense, with a density similar to that of oak. Is treated bamboo significantly less dense? Or is "lightweight" an imprecise way to state that you can make do with less material than if you were building with e.g. pine, and so your construction will be overall lighter? EverGreg (talk) 10:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

chg to intro
said 30-49 ft per day and 1.4-2.0 in per hour. Both can't be right. I removed the absurd one and replaced it with better math. 75.72.169.115 (talk) 02:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Growth rate?
From the article:

"Bamboo at the fastest can grow 3 inches a day."

"Bamboo is the fastest-growing plant on Earth. It has been clocked surging skyward as fast as 121 cm (47.6 inches) in a 24-hour period."

That doesn't fit. -- Nils Jeppe (talk) 11:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, the lead says that it grows 3 to 4 feet per day. Which is it? --Hnsampat (talk) 17:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Food and drink Tagging
This article talk page was automatically added with WikiProject Food and drink banner as it falls under Category:Food or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. The bot was instructed to tagg these articles upon consenus from WikiProject Food and drink. You can find the related request for tagging here. Maximum and careful attention was done to avoid any wrongly tagging any categories, but mistakes may happen... If you have concerns, please inform on the project talk page -- TinucherianBot (talk) 22:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

There actually IS bamboo in Canada
Well, maybe not all across Canada, but I know for a fact that there are bamboo groves in both coastal BC and southern Nova Scotia. I'm not sure if they are native to Canada or introduced, however. Just thought I'd mention it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.205.228 (talk) 00:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

identifying USA grown breeds
i have a neighbor with a bamboo patch secretly growing in his backyard, its stalks were a pure green and grew dense and tall, not nearly as tall as the tree foliage in the area what kinds might this be? Murakumo-Elite (talk) 08:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)