Talk:Banbury/Archive 1

Expansion of article
I think we should expand this article more because Banbury is quite a large town and its expanding fast, maybe we should mention abuot the expansion of the town such has hanwell fields and colledge fields (bodicote bankside)Thatperson 17:39, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

BGN
"Blessed George Napier (Roman Catholic school, which includes 6th form)"

Should be listed as Blessed George Napier Roman Catholic Seconday School, as that is the full title. The same applies to all Roman Catholic Primaries listed. Shuvveh 03:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Alcan
Alcan closed it's processing plant, leaving only the R&D labs which are earmarked for closure too. Shuvveh 22:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

i think we should leave the info about alcan and add info about its closure rather than just deleting the part about alcan Thatperson

I have been unable to find a date for the closure of the processing plant. If you can find one then include it but to list Alcan as current is incorrect.

Banbury no longer produces aluminium, it shouldn't be listed as a current industry.

There should be a mention made to the manufacture of plastics within Banbury, given the number of plastics factories.

Please excuse if this out of format (newbie). Alcan sold its aluminium extrusion plant to Alcoa some years ago. It is very much still there (I saw it last night...) as per http://www.alcoa.com/locations/alcoa_location/en/home.asp?code=192. In November 2006, Alcoa announced it would like to merge this plant into a JV with SAPA (http://www.alcoa.com/global/en/news/news_detail.asp?newsYear=2006&pageID=20061121005872en).

Alcan International's labs closed in or around 2004. (source - wife (well, she worked there)) 86.131.24.28 16:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Other Industry
Major centre for advanced motor racing design and construction eg Ascari, Innoval, Westmoreland etc

Proximity to Ford R&D at Gaydon; move of Aston Martin from Wykam Mill to Gaydon and Pro-drive.86.131.24.28 17:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Banbury - largest town in the world?
I'm not convinced by this! Any sources which suggest this? Manm hk 14:58, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * That was vandalism. The bit about greenbelt property being transported from London to Banbury was the giveaway. MFlet1 12:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Parks and Recreational areas
Ten park articles were listed for WP:PROD deletion, expired on 1 Jan and were eligible for immediate deletion (two had already been deleted when I found the group). Rather than letting these be deleted, I have merged what I consider the most notable and verifiable information from each of the short articles into the line items in the Parks section. I know this might not make people very happy, but at least this solution keeps the history and old version of each article visible to editors who are not administrators. Regards --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 04:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Second largest Tesco in Banbury?
Can I have clarification on this please? Manm hk 14:58, 27 July 2007 (UTC) Tesco Banbury is was one of Tescos £1m a week stores when it first opened. Looking at the Tesco page shows that this isn't true. I'll remove it. Shuvveh (talk) 01:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

World Service
The tune used as continuity on the World Service was Lilibulero, which has a similar rhythm and melody to Ride a Cock Horse but is not the same. MFlet1 (talk) 12:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

"Companies based in Banbury"
Since when has Kraft Foods, the second biggest food and drinks company in the world, been based in Banbury? Touch FM is part of the CN Radio group, again not based in Banbury. I'm fairly certain the Banbury Guardian is part of a group of newspapers. This section seems to be more like an advertising section rather than having any real encyclopedic value. Shuvveh (talk) 01:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Kraft Foods is the biggest employer in Banbury and so is worth a mention. Perhaps the heading just needs changing. MFlet1 (talk) 20:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Is Twyford Mill (part of the Bibby Group) still in Adderbury? I used to work there.Oyster24 (talk) 21:26, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Cattle Market
The cattle market at Banbury was of national historic importance, with cattle being driven there on the hoof from as far afield as Scotland to be sold to feed the growing population of London and other towns. Unfortunately I don't have enough information to expand this section but I think it deserves more than we have here. John Campbell (talk) 15:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Oxfordshire / Northamptonshire ?
I'm not convinced that Banbury has ever been in Northamptonshire - can anyone shed light on this? MFlet1 21:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I think part of it used to be, but was ceeded to Oxfordshire when the town expanded. G-Man  * 21:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The Grimsby borough was from before 1918. --Jo Prentice 20:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Banbury and Grimsby murged in 1974, when the couty's borders were amended.--86.25.52.148 17:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Banbury's Grimsby borough was part of Oxfordshire prior to 1972.--Pine oak 19:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Grimsbury, surely?! MFlet1 12:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Grimsbury is the right spelling--86.29.248.41 01:31, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Part of the town was in Northamptonshire untill the 1920's.--86.29.250.21 (talk) 11:16, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

By 1888, there were twenty-two urban sanitary districts unified in single county. These encluded Banbury (Oxfordshire/Northamptonshire).--86.25.49.53 (talk) 11:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I found a source saying that Grimsbury was incorporated into Banbury in 1889 so have put this in the article. MFlet1 (talk) 12:42, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

History section - British Iron Age and Roman Period? A Problem!
The first section starts with this sentence:


 * "During excavations for the building of an office in Hennef Way in 2002, the remains of a British Iron Age settlement with circular buildings, dating back to 200 AD in the Roman period were were found. "

As the British Iron Age ends - at latest - around 100 AD, this sentence is either scrambled beyond recognition, or the reference to the Roman Period is otiose - or there is a problem with the date. Either way, it needs re-writing! Perhaps the simplest would be to concede that 200 AD is during the Roman Period, but too late for the British Iron Age. But then, why mention the Iron Age in the first place? I am completely befused (i.e confused and bemused)!

Comments??? Hair Commodore (talk) 10:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I've found what I think is the source for this (http://www.banbury-cross.co.uk/banhistory.htm). It would appear the meaning of the original got garbled by whoever added the info to the article - what it actually says is that the area was previously thought to have been inhabited since Roman times until the remains of an Iron Age settlement dating back to 200BC (not AD) were found during the Hennef Way excavations.  I've changed the article to reflect this and added the above as the source.MFlet1 (talk) 13:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Oxfordshire Ironstone Railway
The Oxfordshire Ironstone Railway to Wroxton opened in 1919, not "about 1900". (The Ironstone Quarries of the Midlands, Part II the Oxfordshire Field by Eric Tonks). Bruern Crossing (talk) 21:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Discrepancy: Date "Banbury Cross" Was Destroyed
The section about Banbury Cross states both "At one time Banbury had many crosses (The High Cross, The Bread Cross and The White Cross), but these were destroyed by Puritans on 26 July 1600" and that "The English nursery rhyme 'Ride a cock horse to Banbury Cross' refers to the cross destroyed by Puritans in 1602." This is confusing, because it must mean that either another cross was built between 1600 and 1602, or that the Puritans destroyed all the crosses in 1602, not 1600. Can someone clear this up? Pammalamma (talk) 04:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * According to this article, the correct date is 1600 and the incorrect date of 1602 comes from the plaque on Banbury Cross, which most people have never read because it is in the middle of a traffic roundabout! Anyway, I'm updating the article to reflect this. MFlet1 (talk) 11:22, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Image
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.79.46 (talk) 08:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The building on extreme left foreground (the one where the sign is cut off to read "hop") apparently has, on its Market Place-facing side, musket ball holes which date from the English Civil War. The muskets were fired from the castle, which stood on the other side of the Market Place, roughly where that row of buildings in the background stands. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:40, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

a few things
the shopping centre is Castle Quay not the Castle Quay and there are 3 entrances on the canal one by the flower stall one next to H&M and another inside H&M at the back of the shop. The Banbury Guardian is now in tabloid format it changed a few months ago. You may also want to add that the local council also has offices in the museum replacing the ones by the bus station. Also the new spiceball is completed so no need to say it began to be re developed as its finished. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.198.129 (talk) 14:17, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.14.166.105, 2 October 2010
Banbury Guardian is now a tabloid, not a broadsheet. Banbury is now served by Wrexham and Shropshire railway.

92.14.166.105 (talk) 19:18, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

sports clubs
Additional sports clubs not mentioned are:

'Team Cherwell' - Triathlon and multisports club 'Cherwell Runners and Joggers' 'Banbury Star' Cycling club —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.195.185.225 (talk) 16:19, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Tooley's Boat Yard
This should probably get a mention, given it's the last operating canal-side dry dock in the area. Perhaps alongside the museum? Shuvveh 03:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

re:Tooleys boat yard
Yeah I think it should be given a mention besides the museum but I dont know much about it, so either you can add it if you want or I can find some info if you wish

I have added it to the page!--86.24.14.204 (talk) 14:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

My upgrade
It is now compleated and for the most part sourced!--Wipsenade (talk) 18:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Note this
My family are related to the Barlett and Denchfield families of Banburyshire/Bukinghamshire on my maternal side. May be I have 2 mayors remotly related some way off in my liniage.--Wipsenade (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

1899- Hubert Barlett--Wipsenade (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

1891- William Denchfield--Wipsenade (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

New page
I will be setting up a new History of Banbury, Oxfordshire page soon since I have noticed the Banbury page is getting rather long and I found some banking stuff that is of note. The scope of the article will be cover the sections on-


 * Industry and comerce.


 * History.


 * Waterworks and Sanitation.

All the stuff from Laurence of Hardwick's mill in the 13th century to Kraft's factory in the 1960's will be moved over soon.--Wipsenade (talk) 09:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Local goverment.

It is 99.8% done now.--Wipsenade (talk) 13:21, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I Moved it to History of Banbury - this article is Banbury, so why not? -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 22:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Polish and East European immigration?
Not sure what particular relevance this has as it stands, surely a demographical breakdown would be more appropriate as at the moment it feels a bit like race baiting to me.

Does anyone object to removal? If not I'll remove later this month. SomethingAndNothing (talk) 13:27, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

No objection so removed SomethingAndNothing (talk) 13:04, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Picture quality
Has the page been taken over by someone who wants to show Banbury is the ugliest town in England? The pictures make it look unbearably dreary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.138 (talk) 17:05, 30 October 2011‎
 * You'd think so, wouldn't you. If you believe that the images don't meet Manual of Style/Images, feel free to either remove or replace them with better pictures. -- Red rose64 (talk) 17:17, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I came here (Sept2014) expecting to add a new comment about images. There are too many poorly laid out, many of which should be available in Wikimedia rather than the article. I intend to prune soon, depending on consensus SovalValtos (talk) 22:00, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Boldly go for it!Charles (talk) 22:10, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Some done, more needed. SovalValtos (talk) 22:15, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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