Talk:Bangsamoro/Archive 1

Bangsamoro or Bansangmoro?
I have watched the signing of the framework agreement and I know that it is Bangsamoro. However, the locator map says that it is Bansangmoro or Moro Nation in English. Does the term Bangsamoro also meant Moro Nation? Then where is the statement in the framework that it is merely an autonomous region (a political entity or substate?) ? Arius1998 (talk) 04:54, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone has to redo the map. Bangsamoro means Moro Nation indeed (i think in Tausug, one of the indigenous languages of Muslim Filipinos), whereas Bansangmoro is Tagalog which I haven't heard nor read in the papers as an official alternative name for the Bangsamoro region. Bangsamoro (or presently ARMM) is the only autonomous "nation" in the Philippines among its more than 100 "nations" or ethnic groups. See --RioHondo (talk) 03:43, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Languages in regional articles
Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:48, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in Bangsamoro Autonomous Region
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Bangsamoro Autonomous Region's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "area": From Tawi-Tawi: Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao, Department of Agriculture: Tawi-Tawi (There seems to be major discrepancies among authoritative sources:  362,655 ha (NSCB 2007), 120,876 ha (NAMRIA), 1197 km² (Department of Tourism), 999 km² (Mapcentral)) From Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao: See also talk page. From Basilan: See also talk page From Lanao del Sur: Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao, Department of Agriculture: Lanao del Sur (There are major discrepancies among authoritative sources: 4121.3 km² (NAMRIA); 1,349,437 ha (NSCB, this value seems unreasonable and must be assumed as erroneous, see Talk:Lanao del Sur)) From Sulu: Province of Sulu: Brief Profile (There seems to be major discrepancies among authoritative sources:  343,699 ha (NSCB 2007), 175,460 ha (NSCB 2000), 167,377 ha (NAMRIA)) 

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:26, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 27 January 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) samee  converse  20:19, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Bangsamoro Autonomous Region → Bangsamoro – As per WP:CONCISE, WP:COMMONNAME, and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Reliable source often referred to the region as just "Bangsamoro" or sometimes "Bangsamoro Autonomous Region". The official full name of the subdivision is Bangsamoro Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (BARMM) which is a mouthful. Unlike the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao though which is often referred to by its acronym ARMM (and very rarely if not never "Muslim Mindanao", the BARMM is often referred to with a shorter non-acronym name. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 08:42, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Bangsamoro → added by 94.21.204.175 (talk) 13:49, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Support. Of the entries at the target (a disambiguation page), only this one is a candidate for the primary topic of "Bangasmoro" (with the possible exeption of Bangsamoro Republik), the rest are all PTMs. 94.21.204.175 (talk) 13:44, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Support for me as well. It is probably the most recognizable name for BARMM. ITSQUIETUPTOWN   talk • contribs 00:03, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. I have some qualms about whether the meanings attached to the terminology will solidify as such, but for now, making this the main topic for 'Bangsamoro' makes sense. A new move can be proposed in the future, if the community deems it necessary. - Alternativity (talk) 03:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


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Ratification date?
As far as I know the Commission on Elections "deemed" the BOL ratified on January 25, 2019. The question is when exactly was the BOL ratified? When the plebiscite polling closed on January 21, 2019 or when the Commission on Elections announced its ratification? Who is the ratifier? The voters or the canvassers/election body? I feel the COMELEC is just confirming the BOL ratification which occurred on the plebiscite day but that would be original research. So far no news organization has clarified regarding on the matter?Hariboneagle927 (talk) 12:14, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


 * According to article 16 sec. 1 of RA 11054 or the BOL, "The transition period for establishment of the Bangsamoro Autonomous Region shall commence upon ratification of this Organic Law. This Organic Law shall be deemed ratified when approved by a majority of the votes cast in a plebiscite as proclaimed by the Commission on Elections or its duly authorized officer." So it is January 25, 2019 the day of ratification of BOL.

Myrabert01 (talk) 09:30, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

63 Barangays in North Cotabato map
There is an existing inforgraphic made by Mindanews. It could act as a reference for the edit on the current political map for BARMM. Here is the site: https://www.mindanews.com/peace-process/2019/02/674343-voters-in-lanao-norte-north-cot-decide-on-barmm-inclusion-on-feb-6a/ Marwan_Khan (talk) 02:20, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

The Bangsamoro
Can someone please provide guidance on whether it's supposed to be "Bangsamoro" without an article, or whether the article is required, making it "the Bangsamoro"? So far I have only heard media use it with the article, but I don't know if this has become standard newsroom convention yet. - Koakaulana (talk) 08:43, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * IMO, we only use the article when referring to region's name in full, e.g, the Bangsamoro Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao or the Bangsamoro Autonomous Region, much like a proper adjective. But Bangsamoro as its common name and by itself shouldn't be referred to as the Bangsamoro, which is no different from how we treat other regions, like Bicol but the Bicol Region; Cordillera but the Cordillera Administrative Region; Central Luzon but the Central Luzon region; Mimaropa; but the Mimaropa region, etc.--RioHondo (talk) 17:51, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

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