Talk:Banshee (roller coaster)

DYK
Some thoughts for possible did you know hooks: Any other ideas, comments or opinions? Themeparkgc  Talk  08:42, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) ... that Banshee at the Kings Island amusement park will become world's longest inverted roller coaster when it opens in 2014?
 * 2) ... that, with a length of over 4000 ft, Banshee at the Kings Island amusement park will become world's longest inverted roller coaster when it opens in 2014?
 * 3) ... that Banshee at the Kings Island amusement park is named after the Irish mythological spirit and will become world's longest inverted roller coaster when it opens in 2014?


 * Oh...Uumm......Sorry, I jumped the gun (mine was similar to the first suggestion by you). We can still change it. Anyway, my vote to for number 1 which is already similar to the one in the nomination. Number two can be alternate.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 12:25, 9 August 2013 (UTC)


 * My top vote would be for # 1 followed by # 3.--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 13:24, 9 August 2013 (UTC)


 * My vote is for # 3. Seems like it brings more to the table in one line. --GoneIn60 (talk) 14:05, 9 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I didn't realise you had already done that Dom. I personally prefer #3, followed by #1. Themeparkgc   Talk  05:36, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Info about Mantis
We should probably do away with the hatnote, since it's not likely many readers will find it useful. Very few if any will be looking for Mantis when they search for "Banshee" or "Banshee (roller coaster)". Better to mention it in prose within the article instead. Doing this would also give us a reason to remove the "See also" section. Any objections? --GoneIn60 (talk) 04:32, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


 * No objections from me. Maybe a sentence or two could be included directly after the one about the trademark application. Themeparkgc   Talk  07:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Terrain
Does anyone object to me saying that this is a terrain roller coaster?Wackyike (talk) 21:13, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Nope.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 22:24, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Usually a terrain roller coaster refers to significant use of terrain in its layout (e.g., forests, cliffs, etc). Banshee doesn't strike me as one that fits the bill. There are only a few trees around part of the track and no significant changes in elevation due to the terrain. --GoneIn60 (talk) 05:33, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I can understand what you are saying GoneIn60, but I think the following extract of the article sums up why I think it could be considered a terrain roller coaster:


 * Due to the terrain underneath Banshee, the highest point of the ride – the 167-foot-tall (51 m) lift hill – will be 208 feet (63 m) higher than the lowest point of the ride, at the bottom of the batwing element. As a result in this elevation change Banshee will reach its maximum speed of 68 miles per hour (109 km/h) approximately halfway through the layout, rather than after the first drop as evidenced in most roller coasters.


 * I'm not definite either way, just slightly leaning towards terrain at this stage. Themeparkgc   Talk  23:55, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I suppose it's subjective as to whether or not that's considered "significant" use of terrain. We're talking about a 41-foot difference and some unmeasurable increase in speed (since we don't know what the speed would have been like without it). When I think of a terrain roller coaster, I usually think of coasters like The Beast or Phantom's Revenge, that really make use of the terrain throughout the entire ride, not just on one or two elements. Doesn't matter much to me though. Just making an observation. --GoneIn60 (talk) 14:18, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Fastest inverted coaster
From browsing RCDB, it does appear to be the fastest. However, there are several inverted coasters in the database that do not have their speed listed. Also, unless there is a source that actually states it is the "fastest", then I'm not sure we should rely on RCDB alone. Doing so would appear to be crossing the line with original research. Also, doesn't it seem strange that Kings Island wouldn't have used the opportunity to bill it as the fastest in addition to the longest? --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:48, 12 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't Wicked Twister faster?Wackyike (talk) 21:29, 12 May 2014 (UTC)


 * WT isn't a complete circuit invert.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 21:57, 12 May 2014 (UTC)


 * You're right. I didn't realize that you guys meant complete circuit above and on the article page.Wackyike (talk) 22:34, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey guys, Volcano is actually faster than Banshee and it's complete circuit.Wackyike (talk) 20:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Wow, totally forgot about this. Glad you removed it. Even if we couldn't find an example like Volcano, a source should have been cited for that claim. --GoneIn60 (talk) 03:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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