Talk:Bantam (poultry)

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Could someone help me please do Bantam chickens dig holes to lay in when it is hot. Or should we be alarmed that there maybe something wrong with our chicken winnie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.8.233 (talk) 05:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

The prose of this article seems a bit off. it drops into first person sometimes and the questioning paragraph is an odd thing for an encyclopedia. It also seems to have POV issues feeling a little like pro-bantam propaganda. The information seems good though. It should be noted there actually is an anti-bantam feeling among some too. mainly chicken raisers who don't want bantams to interbreed with their stock.

I have never heard of something called a "pekin bantam", and I hhave been a chicken fancier for several years. There is a Pekin duck, and there are bantam breeds with leg feathers such those described in this article, but they are not called pekin bantams. I'm concerned because it is such a common mistake to think "bantam" is a breed, when in fact, it is just a smal version of something. There are some breeds of chicken that only have a bantam version, and many others that come in either bantam or standard.

I have just learned that "pekin" is what Cochin bantams are called outside of North America.

___ There is a lot of information about the pekin (cochin) bantam. Shouldnt this be moved to its own page?--βjweþþ (talk) 12:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Ive moved the information to pekin bantam What do you think?.

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I think that somebody should add the different breeds of Bantam Chickens. I know that some people would think that the Bantam Chicken is one breed. I have added information about the Bantam Chicken and i feel that somebody should be adding more aswell to this stump article.

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"Bantams are known as the flower garden of the poultry world." beg pardon, but this could use a bit more clarification 68.239.20.246 00:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

one-fifth to one-quarter the size of the standard breed?
The article says, "Miniatures are usually one-fifth to one-quarter the size of the standard breed". A bantam is one fifth of the size of a hen? That makes them about the size of a gerbil. Is this a mistake, a joke, or am I missing something? -- Euchiasmus 10:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've just been reading a book about poultry and discovered what I think is the answer. A photograph in the book shows a bantam as being about 60% of the height of its large fowl counterpart, but the caption says it's about a quarter of the size. If you reduce all the dimensions of something by 60%, its volume (and supposedly its mass) decreases by (0.6)3 which is 0.216. That's "one-fifth to one-quarter the size of the standard breed". When I read the article and inserted the comment above, I was imagining it meant a fifth to a quarter of the height. Silly mistake of mine, but I'll leave the comment here just in case anyone else misunderstands it. Euchiasmus 06:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

A bit more to it than that. You gotta remember that the overall impression of "size" of the chicken, perhaps what you might call the "envelope", is mainly feathers. The proportion of the envelope of the bantam that is made up of feathers is not necessarily the same as the proportion of the full size breed. That is, some bantams have smaller feathers than the full size, some don't. So there is a big difference in "size" ratio depending on whether you go by height, volume, or weight. It is not intuitively obvious which one you are talking about, so Euchiasmus' final comment is a good one. Old_Wombat (talk) 02:54, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

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What do they taste like?
And please don't tell me it's chicken. Myles325a (talk) 03:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * they taste like chicken Caucasianhamburger (talk) 03:40, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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Why are they smaller, genetically?
Are they equivalent to human dwarfs? What happens if you cross a standard and a bantam? Are the offspring either standard or bantam, or is there a continuous range of sizes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.48.76.228 (talk) 02:32, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

We need to get the definition right!
In the spirit of Wikipedia accuracy, it looks like we ned to get the definition right, because at the moment it's very wishy-washy. In fact there are two outright contradictions!

In that spirit I contribute this: Pat Birchall, one of the most famous poultry breeders in all of Australia (there's my referenced source!), told me that it's ONLY a "bantam" IF there is an equivalent full sized breed. That is, not every small poultry breed is a bantam. Old_Wombat (talk) 03:03, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * There are two classifications of bantam. True bantam, which has no large counter part, and bantam, which has a large counterpart. Though generally bantam refers to any small chicken breed. Anjwalker   Talk 06:02, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Comparing apples and pears
compare the chick of a known large breed with the chick of a true bantem. If there is a 'bantam' version of every breed, that is what should be used for comparison. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 23:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed in essence. Not to mention Japanese are the 2nd smallest of the True Bantams according to standardised weights (the closely related Serama is the only one smaller), so it's not really a far comparison. But that said, unless a better photo is available I wouldn't remove it immediately. JTdale   Talk 02:09, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Bantam chicken eggs are only about a third to half the size of a regular hen egg.
no they are not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.234.55.14 (talk) 02:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)