Talk:Baqofah

Permission from baqofa.com
I was given permission from baqofa.com to use its content in 2006:
 * ''From; 00000
 * Date; Mon, January 09, 2006 11:33 pm
 * To; admin@baqofa.com
 * I wanted to also ask you if I can barrow some of the contents you have on your webpage and add it on the internet-based encyclopedia called www.wikipedia.org


 * REPLY - admin@baqofa.com wrote;
 * As far as borrowing the information about Baqofa. You are welcome to borrow the text information as long as you reference the Author, in this case, baqofa.com.''

Iraqi (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Protected
An administrator will come to resolve the copyright issue in a few days. Until then, the notice must stay up. Stifle (talk) 17:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * But even when its vandelism? Iraqi (talk) 04:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No, the tagging was not vandalism. It was requested by the copyright holder through OTRS. Stifle (talk) 08:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * So then where do I post the permission from the copyright holder? Iraqi (talk) 08:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The permission process is set out at Requesting copyright permission. However, the permission that you assert you were provided is not usable on Wikipedia as it does not explicitly release the information under GFDL, which not only allows reproduction but also modification. Since the copyright holder did not provide clear license under GFDL and was evidently not advised that permission to reuse also permitted modification, we must respect his e-mailed request, which clearly issues from the administrator of the website, to remove this material from Wikipedia. In several days, unless specific licensing from the copyright holder is provided, this material will be deleted. Unfortunately, since this material has been present since the foundational edit of this article, this means that the entire article must go. There is a link on the article's face to a temporary space in which a new article may be written without this text. The new article may include information from that site, but not sentences or phrases, except in accordance with our non-free content guidelines, which do permit limited direct quotations of copyrighted text. If you have any question about revision, please ask, since if the new version of the article also infringes, it, too, will have to be deleted. Thanks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Since none of the regular contributors addressed the matter in temporary space and since verification of GFDL permission has not been forthcoming, I have rewritten the article with some additional sourcing. Information has been incorporated from the previous source, but not language. However, the article could use with improved sourcing, since it relies heavily one one source of unknown authority. I attempted to search google books, but found little usable in English. Perhaps contributors with more appropriate language skills will have better luck. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Baqofah Explained
I will try to explain in simple words and in one paragraph. There is a vigorous movement since 2003 to unite all Christians in Iraq under the name Assyrians for political reasons. Historically, most Christians in Iraq were united under the name Chaldeans or simply Christians with small minorities here and there. Assyrian extremists where always there and were ignored for the most part but lately they are being supported by politicians Kurds in north Iraq to gain control over a small valley in Iraq north of Nineveh where most of the Chaldean villages exist today (Tel Keppe, Tel Skuf, Batnaya, Baqofah, Alqosh). The Chaldean people don’t want any territories or land, they simply want to freely practice their religion and simply be called and their villages by a name they have been known by for hundreds of years, going back to references to their names dating back to Marco Polo’s visit to that region. The conflict over the two names is happening everywhere on the internet and it is unfortunate to see it happening here, for no reason other than the ones I explained above.

--Chaldean2 (talk) 18:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for filling in some of the background. Although, of course, resolving this conflict is well beyond me, it has truly perplexed me. I have not encountered it on Wikipedia before, and it hasn't been highly publicized where I live, some approximately 6500 mi away. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Chaldeans are Assyrians, me self an Assyrian and member of the Chaldean Catholic church and all other member of the chaldean catholic church know why you dont accept that chaldea is a achurch but our ethnity and our people are assyrians.

We are member of the Chaldean Catholic church, syriac orthodox church, syriac catholic church, and assyrian church of the east. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.88.254.183 (talk) 00:47, 9 May 2011 (UTC)