Talk:Barí people

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This page should be merged with Bari_(Americas) in some way. CrimsonLine (talk) 15:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Janhowdan (talk) 13:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)This page seems unbalanced in its representation of the work of missionaries. For those of us who object to missionary work and the social and cultural destruction it brings, this needs to be redressed. It seems as if this is propoganda for the Joshua Project and other missionary zealots.
 * You are welcome to add any legitimate information you have access to. If you don't have any factual information, it may help to study the Motilone Bari and see if, in this case, the missionary has destroyed the Bari society and culture, or preserved it. CrimsonLine (talk) 12:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Motilone? and Bad geography.
The singular of "motilones" is "motilon." Whoever wrote this page just created a new word "motilone." I guess it was the same guy who invented "tamale." Also, The point by which Bolivar crossed the Andes was hundreds of kilometers away from the Bari lands, so it's highly unlikely his troops were attacked by the Bari.

Neutrality of this article
This page contains some cheesy Christian missionary propaganda, but I don't feel informed enough to fix it. --186.118.82.82 (talk) 23:05, 20 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I edited the article a bit to reword a passage about a Christian missionary. This article continues to need help -- it needs more sources. Handthrown (talk) 07:31, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 3 October 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved to Barí people.. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 13:42, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Motilon → Barí – most used name for the indigenous people who speak the Barí language Dan Palraz (talk) 19:23, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:02, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:04, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Not an expert, but I don't see this as uncontroversial. Britannica, for one, uses "Motilon".  More sources needed to confirm the common name. 162 etc. (talk) 20:37, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Precisely, the Motilon article in Britannica is *not* about the Barí people. From Britannica: "Motilón, (Spanish: “Hairless Ones”), collective name loosely applied by the Spaniards to various highland and lowland American Indian peoples who lived in and about the Colombian and Venezuelan Andes and Lake Maracaibo. Chief among them were the Chaké and the Mape, who were agricultural and forest-dwelling and hostilely resisted European encroachments well into the 20th century." As this article is describing a different people, the modern speakers of the Barí language who call themselves Barí and are called Barí by third-sources (such as the Discovery Magazine, the Colombian government, the Venezuelan Government, Ethnologue and the Indigenous Peoples' Organizations), would anyone oppose moving the article to "Barí"? Dan Palraz (talk)
 * Oppose as is, not unopposed to Barí people as I'm not sure the accent is enough to disambiguate from Bari.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:50, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Makes sense; I think Barí people should be enough, but maybe Barí people (South America) then - would anyone oppose that? Dan Palraz (talk) 07:26, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.