Talk:Barack Obama "Hope" poster

Small Caps?
Perhaps I'm wrong, but instead of putting words in all caps and in quotes ("HOPE"), shouldn't they be in small caps ?

For example, this sentence:


 * After the initial 700 posters, the Obama campaign conveyed through Sergant that they wanted to promote the theme of hope, and most of the posters sold by Fairey subsequently had the word "HOPE" and later "CHANGE" instead of "PROGRESS"; the OBEY star was also absent from later versions.

Would now read:


 * After the initial 700 posters, the Obama campaign conveyed through Sergant that they wanted to promote the theme ofhope, and most of the posters sold by Fairey subsequently had the word and later  instead of ; the  star was also absent from later versions.


 * Good idea. I've changed it in the article.--ragesoss (talk) 02:10, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Source mistaken?
Despite the Reuters blog posting Michael Cramer's composite of Jim Young's photo with Fairey's poster, there doesn't seem to be any confirmation from Fairey that it was the source he used.

Flickr user stevesimula posted today his own analysis, and a more convincing source:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25105505@N07/3212113517/

Dforest (talk) 20:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree, that is a more convincing source image.--ragesoss (talk) 21:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed; stevesimula's analysis seems to be an altogether more convincing original photo than the one on this page. Can we remove the current image/replace it with one featuring the better image? — Hysteria18 (Talk • Contributions) 21:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * We'll probably have a reliable source on this in short order; a journalist from The Philadelphia Inquirer (the one who wrote the blog post linked in the article) has taken note. However, the origin (in particular, the date and photographer) of apparent actual source photo isn't known yet.  The sooner someone can track down where it came from, the sooner there will probably be a good source to use in the article.  I don't think replacing the image is an option, since the stevesimula's isn't freely licensed and I don't think we could consider that legitimate fair use.  We could remove the other one, but I think it should stay for now; the text is now reworded so that it doesn't say flat out the the Jim Young one is the source, and a footnote links to the stevesimula one.--ragesoss (talk) 22:12, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Particularly the highlights and shadows of the image stevesimula posted match virtually identically to Fairey's poster. Stevesimula's image is lit from the left side, which gives the beige highlights/red shadows in the posterized image. Jim Young's image is very evenly lit, appears flat, and its highlights and shadows do not match Fairey's poster at all.

In an effort to research the source of the image Stevesimula posted, I searched for the photo on the image-based search engine at Tineye.com. I found the photo in articles from cbsnews.com and starmedia.com. Both attribute it to the Associated Press. Dforest (talk) 22:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, I found the same thing. But both of those are from after the blog post.  I've emailed that blogger.--ragesoss (talk) 22:29, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Photo source for iconic Obama "HOPE" poster discovered
This would be a great topic for a Wikinews story, as we might have a chance to be the first ones to break it. Anyone else want to help?--ragesoss (talk) 22:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I called AP, and they said to send an email to info@ap.org, which I did. Hopefully we can figure out pretty soon where that photo originally came from, although they don't release photographers' names (at least not "to the public", the operator said).--ragesoss (talk) 22:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Alternatives
There was at least one version reading "NOPE" used by the opposition. Are there any more examples? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phreed100 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Plenty, apparently. — Hysteria18 (Talk • Contributions) 21:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Indeed, there is even an flash-based make-your-own Obama icon generator by Paste Magazine at http://obamicon.me. Dforest (talk) 22:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Here's a pretty definitive list.--The lorax (talk) 22:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Connection to Obama's 2004 Democratic convention speech
I have heard the theory that Fairey's use of red and blue, normally fairly clashing colours, in his collage was inspired by Obama's 2004 Democratic convention speech which opposed the division of the USA into "red states" and "blue states", demonstrating that Obama represented and was made up of both. However I can't find anything which would be a reliable source which says that. Now I could have misunderstood or missed the source, and I guess someone will know the answer. Sam Blacketer (talk) 22:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Art and Obama
Why don't creation a Art Section about Barack Obama (fashion, photo..) he s the first to inspired young picturals artists. For example here is a net art portrait, a political one like a ready made (name squatting) by a french artiste Nicolas Frespech.

http://www.barackobama.li —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.3.43.239 (talk) 16:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Art compared to that of Soviet era
I've heard these portraits of Obama, been compared to that of Sovie realism propaganda. Should a section about this be added? (Estoniankaiju (talk) 18:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC))

GA
Why does the link to the Feb 22 version of the article lead to Cindy McCain's article instead?71.182.211.165 (talk) 04:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind.71.182.211.165 (talk) 04:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Good point. The art is also reminiscent of Mao-era Chinese propagandist posters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.23.125.56 (talk) 05:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Other
Che lives! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.71.14.183 (talk) 00:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Mubarak and Egypt
Is it worth mentioning the parody that was used in the Egypt uprising of Jan/Feb 2011? It has Mubarak's face and the slogan 'No You Can't' underneath. There's a photo of a burnt version of it on the BBC homepage right now, but I don't know how long it'll stay there as the homepage gets refreshed quite often. 81.147.147.114 (talk) 18:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * also on Twitpic and blogs  81.147.147.114 (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

KFC vs Obama
I suppose it's been noted before, that the poster looks very like the KFC logo from the 90s - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:90s_KFC_Logo.svg - but it seems it has also been picked up... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-fried-chicken-if-you-go-to-china/ 203.38.100.131 (talk) 23:53, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Obama's party quip about Clooney
This article from the Hollywood Reporter has Obama joking about the poster. George Clooney was hosting a party for Obama at his house, and Obama spoke to the assembled guests. He said:

Perhaps the humorous bit can be worked into the article. Binksternet (talk) 17:11, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

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To Mr. Obama and his family
Mr.Obama,

This is Mrs.Sikes and I wanted to APOLOGIZE to you for all of the mean insults that I have thrown to you and your family. All of the mean things that I have said about you and your family when and after you where the President was uncalled for and I apologize. I have no idea how much longer I have on this earth but I just wanted to do this before I stand before my God and have to give HIM an account of the things that I have done but I wanted to apologize for not believing that you where not a citizen of this country, I have seen your birth certificated on the internet and now I know that in fact you are and even though I had not seen it I never should have sit in judgement of you, I'm sorry. It is not for me to judge you.

Thank You, Mrs.Sikes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.131.246.110 (talk) 13:37, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Paster
A very happy (Note: I had originally described the user as "very angry"; however, he subsequently changed this to "very happy", which makes less sense in context but I'll accept his self-identification. DS (talk) 13:42, 23 April 2019 (UTC)) user came on the IRC help channel claiming that before the image was a poster, it was a "paster" - that is, a document intended to be pasted on walls for campaign and street art purposes. He claims that this term is in common use in the street art community.

To support this, he cited this page; the term 'pasters' is indeed present, but in a context which looks to me as if it could be a simple misspelling.

I decline to make a decision as to whether the user is accurate; some googling on my part indicates that the term is used to describe individuals who paste documents on walls, but this is of course not exclusive of the other definition.

Thoughts from anyone who is more involved with the upkeep of this article? DS (talk) 20:57, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The very angry user is now insisting that this site supports his statements, and insisting that it be considered proof. DS (talk) 21:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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